For the younger ICE tuners

silent_riot · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:13 am Post subject: For the younger ICE tuners

I would like to know what are the car audio interests of my peers (18-25yrs) on the ICE forum. This would include interests and your long term goals in the ICE industry.

For example,

How many of you are looking to become car audio competitors?

How many are enthusiasts who are not interested in competition, but interested in the science, design etc of the car audio or audio in general.

How many would like to be formally trained in car audio?

What interests you in car audio?
Or any other concerns...

There's a lot of interest in some areas of car audio, and if those are made clear, maybe there can be some greater development in the sport. Eg. formulation of teams, sponsorships, training etc.

This applies to all genres of the sport, be it sq, spl, db dragging, etc.
In the same way there is SQS for generally sound q applications. There can be sessions for the other genres of the sport.

What say you?

Soundstream_626 · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:42 am Post subject:

im 23 ... id rather not compete ... i love car audio on d whole and i can appreciate streetbeat as well as sq

i would love formal training sessions .. especially in fabrication techniques... i think its a nice hobby

gfbl · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:49 am Post subject:

i say me that i just want to be learn as much as possible as i can about sq theory and practice. things that the up comin sqs promises to address like zero plane delay and thing is excitin. not so much on competition but just for my own knowledge if i ever decide to do an install myself. i think only then i would appreciate it the most. when i start to cut metal and build an entire new dash an thing for 2 12's . so gaining the knowledge would be good as i would like to try different approaches, 4 way active. sealed , ib mno sub, 8's or 10's in the doors. etc

nigel1977 · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:51 am Post subject:

Good topic, and good ideas.

What is so many people's hesitance or reluctance in competing?

loudsound · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:56 am Post subject:

i wud like 2 compete jus 2 promote the small business i hav goin....
training would b nice its always good to learn new stuff....
hmmm interest in car audio....ammm i jus like fabricating / making sub woofer enclosures, making the customer happy with the end result and hear hearing my enclosure perform Laughing

love ground pounding bass... Twisted Evil

Soundstream_626 · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:00 pm Post subject:

well for me ... competition is stiff and expensive ... when i was now starting in ice d amout of money i spend trying to be d loudest in my area etc ...i realised over time it just doesnt make sense

loudsound · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject:

^^^ daiz tru bro i tink d same ....i jus desided to go this way for exposure

gfbl · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:06 pm Post subject:

i think if yuh compete ppl will know yuh have a system and then yuh get mark.

ShaKarz · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject:

dtp · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:26 pm Post subject:

same here

slacker_jack · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject:

x2

but with respect to compeating, ive been to some car shows where they class you according to the size of your sub, i hope thas not the way it will be done but that pple will be put into categories according to the amount of power they hav in thier car and size of sub as well as amt of caps etc (like iasca).

if pple puttin me up against other pple with the same size sub and not the same power handeling capacity I out!

i eh want tuh be up against a man woth a juggernaut & i hav a rf p1 15".

loudsound · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:51 pm Post subject:

lol daiz tru ^^^^

silent_riot · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:52 pm Post subject:

^^So then what would you like the officiating bodies to do for you?

FaLLeN AnGeL · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject:

i am 22 and i love my music and i love to play it loud, but i am more interested in the science, design etc of the car audio or audio in general.

slacker_jack · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject:

put us in caregories according to the amt of rms we puttin out for bass (spl). you could also take into consideration the size of the sub used, class man according tuh sub size and rms power, we all kno the simple things like the wiring, batt size and caps will make the diff.

if there isnt any1 with the same size sub with the same rms eg a man with a 10" & a man with a 15" both running 200 rms put dem against each other but we kno the 15" will win. wat can be doen is find how much more of a surface area the 15" has in comparison to the 10" and find a percentage of his spl to suit. or something along these lines nah.

silent_riot · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject:

iasca has rules along those lines. I suggest you go to the website and read them. Also what determines rms etc on an amp (impedance, underrating amps) etc? From what i read, all these issues came up in the past, and the rules right now represent an evolution of that.

3stagevtec · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: For the younger ICE tuners

slacker_jack · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject:

well im 23 and im interested in everything you mentioned.

i will like to compeate jus for the fun also to see how I do.

i ve been studying electrical engineering on the side & i hav a fair understanding of how fluids (air) behave etc.

i hav no intention of fillin my car with music like some of those guys out here. my car is still for my personal use but i like music and a deck and a 6" eh cuttin it. so a lil small amp and a sub with 2 8" fuh mids will do. i also dont want to hav to do much of any major aftermarket mods to the extent of changing alternator etc.

i've been considering iasca, but my car is not legal, like i keep saying in the ole talk forum, my g5 eh commin off my glass dem.

also why i dont want to frequent car shows is to get marked and eh music stolen.

slacker_jack · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject:

& btw I was wondering........

since spl is where they measure the pressure in the vehicle cabin, air is very compressible, wouldnt a man with a vehicle with a small cabin hav an advantage over a man with a vehicle with a large cabin with the same audio system? less air easily compressed? come like squeezing a capped 2 liter bottle and a capped chubby bottle you will get a higher internal pressure from de chubby bottle even if the same force is applied over the same surface area on both bottles.

is this caterd for in spl competetions or is it the trick of the trade dat pple eh realise yet?

southside connections · Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:02 pm Post subject:

I'M 18 AND I'M INNA crowd pleaser and spl

but i love to compete and will not mind formal training