External Hard Drive & USB deck

richiepooh · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject: External Hard Drive & USB deck

Could an External Hard Drive work with a USB Deck e.g. Pioneer Head Unit??

southside connections · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:40 pm Post subject:

hmmm good question, i really wonder dread?

Soundstream_626 · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:20 pm Post subject:

great enough vibrations can damage the platters on hard drives

so even if it can work , it may be more suceptible to data loss than solid state media

Pirate · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject:

yes it could.
IIRC on pioneer's site a while ago for the 6900UB series they demonstrated the USB feature of the deck using an external HDD.

SR · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:31 pm Post subject:

external solid state drive is no different to a usb stick with larger capabilities

only issue will be if the usb port had enough current to power the drive

Firewall · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject:

sometimes the head unit itself limits the capacity which it can read (some can only go up to 16gb, so try it first)

D_bodyguard · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:33 pm Post subject:

yes it can but many ppl including meh padna runs up to 40gig (western digital 40 HD) it works but you will need a external casing and a DC to AC supplier to supply the current for the HD cause the deck cannot sustain such a load. Also the HD has to be formatted and not partitioned, and when formatting ...formatt it as a flash drive is and it will work . Had it running on a 690UB. Also for some strange reason only the western digital 40 gig works nothing higher and no other brand.

carfreak1024 · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject:

i used a 160gb western digital passport on a pioneer 6000ub, but could not use the extension, i had to connect it directly to the rear of the head unit.

When i used the extension the initial load time was too long. it loaded but took like 10 minuted to load the entire drive full of music, without the extension it was like 2-3 mins.

SmokeyGTi · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:41 am Post subject:

richiepooh · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:30 am Post subject:

Chiney · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:38 am Post subject:

^^ he meant USB Extension..

the power decreases across the extension as u increase in LENGTH

invest in a GOOD branded 32GB Flashdrive... and u orn like boil corn!

Firewall · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:52 am Post subject:

Chiney, true, 32 GB of music is a whole lot. you can't done listen to all that.

Chiney · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:11 am Post subject:

no u cant.. Laughing

(...Rovin...) · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:18 am Post subject:

makes me wonder what ppl doing with 160g ...u will get old & still not listen to all d music that can hold

i like 320kps for my mp3s.... Cool

Chiney · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:30 am Post subject:

^^ nothing less ! Wink

southside connections · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:14 am Post subject:

i did this aready for someone,but we used a solidstate drive from toshiba for it

worked pretty well

carfreak1024 · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:39 pm Post subject:

the extension is the usb extender that makes it possible for you to plug in a memory stick and not have it behind the head unit, basically the cord that makes the USB on the back of the head unit longer.

Well when i connected the HDD using just cord that came with the hard drive it worked faster.

theblitz · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:56 pm Post subject:

richiepooh, yes some drives or sizes of drives work on some decks. Before you buy the best bet is to try it from a friends drive possibly.

But this:

Chiney · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:38 pm Post subject:

some harddrives come now with sensors to stop the head wen shocks above rating Gs are detected. the harddrive will use its buffer memory in the mean time..

realistically, one cannot mashup a harddrive by driving, once using a disk with the features above eh, but is trinidad road. even though some can, and are made to operate at certain shock levels, with our roads.... i call 32gb flashdrive on this!

theblitz · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:45 pm Post subject:

but I head of those in some IBMs but any drive you would be using sold by WD or otherwise for cheap will not have this feature. And realistically, yes you can damage a drive by driving.

Chiney · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:18 pm Post subject:

^^ dread, i sure u see i mention trinidad roads!!

in the usa..its being done like normal!

theblitz · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:32 pm Post subject:

sure the drive will not crash instantly but bad sectors develop. In the states there can still be shock sustained to the drive. If you slam a brakes even.

Interestingly enough though, I remember a Rockford unit that used WiFi to sync songs from ur PC to a hard-drive unit in car. I haven't heard of that in quite a while.

Bottom line is it is highly not recommended.

I ain't arguing eh Chiney, I jus saying Rolling Eyes

southside connections · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:52 pm Post subject:

that drive is solid state^^^

most solid state drives are usb flash drives, but there are mass storage solidstate drives

most of them are used in ultra portable notebooks

they aren't that expensive either, if i remember correctly, the one i had was a 16gb, and cost arouond $800

yea this was last year jan,so 16gb's was plenty

theblitz · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:48 pm Post subject:

the one in the RF unit?

southside connections · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:39 pm Post subject:

i would think so^^^

Chiney · Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:36 am Post subject:

i done yes..

southside connections · Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:57 am Post subject:

Chiney,

a solid state drive uses no discs, but rather chipsets that are very capable of handling shocks ect

there are now solid state hdd

the same concept is the usb,solid state

u ever see a usb being destroyed in a car?

Chiney · Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:39 am Post subject:

^ dude

i wasnt referring to the SSD or you..

pal..i work with computer parts/ stuff every day of my life from 8am-5pm.. with over 5 yrs of experience behind that...

but i realize that on this forum everyone is de brightest

like i said.

i done...

theblitz · Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:50 pm Post subject:

not necessarily the brightest but maybe with more than 5yrs experience Laughing

relax nah dred, waz ur seen? Have you never seen how easily portable drives develop bad sectors?

markzz · Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:04 am Post subject:

Ok folks this thread gone off topic.

Here's the deal very simple its simply about compatibility.

Eg. Pioneer HU. Spec- usb 2.0, supports up to 300gb, FAT file system. Usb voltage 2.2v around there.

Typical flash drive operates with a very low voltage however a typical external hard disk requires 5.0v which is supplied of a pc usb port.

The deck however is only 2.2v. Unless your drive is capable of utilizing an external power source eg. An adaptor of some sort to supply the voltage it will not work!

Next thing if you are able to meet the power requirements please remember the drive must be formatted to FAT file system, and equiv or less than 300gb. (pioneer deck)

If your drive manages to work... Or does so for short periods without meeting these requirements please note that you are putting strain on your HU as it was not designed to operate under such conditions and can also damage your drive due to under voltage.

Just my 2cents.. Smile