EX 2000 Turbo Lancers

smokey1275 · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:38 pm Post subject:

dred , you guys are going to spend a minit if you want everything mitsu original , if you can't find it , get stuff that works , via cross breeding . potent combination are out there ,because the old school gsr motor 's engineering is out of date , new efi systems on the evo blocks are more potent with less hassle . example if any of you all were at races the weekend there was a gsr trying to circuit with an evo 6, the two have the identical block , except one has twincam head , 16 valves and upgraded fuel and ignition systems , not to mention grip from all wheel drive . so if you want to stay competative , get the edge you need. Idea

zodiaque · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:13 pm Post subject:

^^Yeah man droppa, once I there, we will run. Probably could call out man like venum too Very Happy

smokey1275 · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:16 pm Post subject:

read above

zodiaque · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:32 pm Post subject:

^^^I not intending on competing with evos any time soon. My next engine, realistically, will most likely be the galant 2.0 (4g63) rwd engine. Tuned NA on Carb. Thats if at the time I can't go Efi due to funds. If I can go Efi, I just might.

I doubt the Efi setup is less hassle, It would cost the same or even more to tune a new Efi than it would cost to tune carb single overhead cam, or even the gsr Efi.

My flavour has always been oldschool anyways, that's what I grew up with, carbed , relatively small engined, rear wheel drives. (Hillman hunters and Ford escorts etc.) So it's only natural for me to go with a relatively large engine with carb/carbs when time to upgrade Very Happy

For now, my mildly tuned 1400 4g12 will suffice. I have only been driving about 4-5 years (well officially anyways Mr. Green

) so I think this powerplant is a nice first engine for me, good low end tourque, and a nice powerband all the way through. The fact that it could still beat up on some new Efi cars is a nice plus too Razz

We will see how things go. Either way it will be a Mitsubishi engine, no doubt about that. I like their design, both in the old and new engines and also I don't want to crossbreed my car, engine wise anyway, that's just my taste.

Sanctifier · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:29 pm Post subject:

1800 GSR / EX 2000 Turbo clones... Difficult but not impossible.
If you want to stay as OEM as possible, what about a G62B (1795cc) or better a G63B turbo.
EFI parts off Mitsu Starion G54B (2600) almost identical to JDM 1800 G62B. EFI parts available in US.
Some US Starion Forums...
http://starquest.i-x.net/
http://pweb.netcom.com/~rvtucker/tech.html
http://fly.to/LancerTurbo

1800 and 2000 also available from RPW in Australia.

OR... Aftermarket US low-compression (8.5 C:R) pistons in Galant GLX (G63B) block with DSM turbo (Eclipse/Laser), FMIC, etc. etc.
Your biggest problem will be a suitable gearbox... Check RPW as well.
One way or the next... Lancer 2000 Turbo 'clone.'

But like smokey1275 Gen 1 Eclipse 4G63 will still be a better bet... and Eclipse parts are cheaper than Evo parts too.

My $0.02c

smokey1275 · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject:

you see someone finnaly making sense Very Happy

zodiaque · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:17 pm Post subject:

I know i started this thread off with the ex 2000, but credit should also be given to the one that started the gsr line:

1600, NA. Too bad non made it down here, or at least, non that I know of.

befor this mitsubishi raced some pretty tiny engines, including their first manufacturers car with a 594 cc engine, this history may be seen here:
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/motorsports/history/
good stuff Cool

smokey1275 · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:24 pm Post subject:

man those cars were awesome for the time , however minis rule now , and always

4G63Turbo · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:05 am Post subject:

zodiaque · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:07 am Post subject:

I'm not familiar with the station. Is that the car with the grill going infront of the frontlights as well? I think it was a hatchback too.

4G63Turbo · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:20 am Post subject:

nah Sanctifier made a typo.
what he relly meant was Starion.
google it.

BR Stage 3 shortblock
BR Stage 3 cylinder head
HKS 272 intake and exhaust cams
BR high performance harmonic damper
BR ported 2G exhaust manifold
BR650 internally gated turbocharger
BR custom FMIC with 2.5" inlet and 3" outlet
BR custom 3" mandrel bent stainless steel exhaust
BR alternator relocator kit
BR billet water pump plate
NX brand nitrous oxide. Four port 100 hp jetting depending on track and tires being used
AEM standalone fuel management (tuned by David Buschur)
1600cc Injectors
BR high flow fuel rail
MSD DIS2 with BR Coil On Plug Ignition
GM Powerglide, BR converter, BR adapterplate, BR flywheel
GM 12 bolt rear end, 10" slick or DOT tires depending on class run
Aeromotive fuel pump and filter

droppa · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:55 am Post subject:

recently Autoshoppe brought in a mitsu 4-Wheel drive van, like ah renegade or so, it had in one of them 2600, with duel side draughts and msd ignition, but it sold before them fellas get time to get it started. i guess that unit was probably taken out and is jus lying around somewhere..................................... Rolling Eyes

ATN recently had ah 2600 also, with gear box and all, but i dont see it anymore so guess tha gone too Crying or Very sad

parts are really hard to come by for those older mitsu engines, if in future i decide to use one ill maybe go for and evo engine and find a box to couple on, it was in the mind, but the pocket could not reach Embarassed

droppa · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:58 am Post subject:

Sanctifier · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:27 pm Post subject:

droppa · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:58 pm Post subject:

an the iatola Mr. SKF lancer using 4G Powah and blowing away the competition

^^^ buh hoss to build and race ah 4G beyotch down here will cost alot eh, dais why most fellas now crossbreedin Twisted Evil

yuh dad drive that galant still Question

Sanctifier · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:25 pm Post subject:

zodiaque · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:53 pm Post subject:

droppa · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:19 pm Post subject:

its really heart warming to know that the GSR Lancer and Turbo lancer was one of the fastest and first of the turbo cars to rollin trini eh........................ Cool

nowadays man only veeeeeeeeeeeetekin up dey self and sr is the most common amd easiest soluttion, and them mini men feel they fassss Twisted Evil

wait nah, where Smokey, hoss ah callin yuh out Twisted Evil

yuh eh ready fuh the crossbreed Mr. Green

smokey1275 · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:51 pm Post subject:

dred allyuh mitsu fellars cars cannot out handle a mini , no day of the week

zodiaque · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:15 pm Post subject:

^^Actually, at the time of production, droppa, it was the fastest sedan you could buy off the showroom floor in the world, not only trinidad. Very Happy

^And don't underestimate the gsr, or it's decendents handling, smokey. They were built to go fast and handle that speed as well, from the ground up. Remember, the gsr was designed first and then the regular lancers built off the same frame. It was one of the most stable cars of the time at speed which is why people still swear by them today.

Ask anyone who has owned a rwd lancer for a while what they like about it the most, one of their first answers would be handling. They would rather drive an old rwd lancer over most newer cars because it just feels more stable.

Oh yeah, btw, if i goin test and tune, I calling out smokey1275 too Twisted Evil