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Dave-ve Sweet on this forum
Joined: 31 Oct 2006 Tech posts: 281
My 2NRide: Nissan P10 primera
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:02 pm Post subject: edit:- FRAM problem |
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is there any way to repair the threading where the oil filter screws on to the engine?
old filter was leaking and when I replaced it with a new one, I felt it go slack when hand tightening. the filter is not getting tight enough to hold a seal. leak got worse after changing the filter. leaking too heavy to drive.
car is a K12 march. cant see if the filter block can be removed. I believe that it has the same engine as the cube.
correct filter was used.
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Problem turned out to be the filter. my dad went to get a new filter and the guy at the parts place told him that other costumers were having similar problems with the Fram filters. the only filters available for the car was the fram and sakura, so he bought both.
took some measurements from the filters:
used purolator L14612 bore diameter .731"
sakura C-1823 .731"
Fram PH6607 .734"
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this is the old fram filter that was hand tightened (with oily hands). you can see where the threading is damaged. it looks like when the filter was put on only the edges of the threads were holding, and the oil pressure caused the filter to move enough to damage the threads.
used the sakura on the car, engine ideling and reving high with no leaks.
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praise 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Tech posts: 241 Location: Port of Spain My 2NRide:
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| The filter screws on to the oil pump. Your cannot repair the treat but you can replace the oil pump with a used one. Try a different brand of filter with the same bore, but with the treading on the oil filter starting closer to the seal, like purulator L4459 instead of the Sakura 1823.If that does not work, look for an oil pump. |
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Dave-ve Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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wagonrunner punchin NOS
Joined: 18 May 2004 Tech posts: 3625 Location: where the only valid opinion is theirs ....... :| My 2NRide: Nissan Y10 Wingroad LE
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:49 am Post subject: |
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FRAM fails again. at least at properly matching your engine.
but due to how quickly it's bypass opens, why do people purchase it? |
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booge Riding on 17's
Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Tech posts: 1249 Location: World My 2NRide:
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:20 am Post subject: |
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| Had this similar problem with the NZE - |
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VexXx Dogg punchin NOS
Joined: 01 May 2003 Tech posts: 3562 Location: Out of my mind. Back in five minutes. My 2NRide:
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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used fram on a B16a civic for 5 years no probs, now using it on my LGT.
No complaints  |
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megadoc1 Chronic TriniTuner
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Tech posts: 579 Location: on your network check and see My 2NRide:
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| i got a problem like that on a cube bought another one some where else no problem |
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~˜VëgŲ˜~ 3NE 2NR Moderator
Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 33558 Location: Searching for the I My 2NRide: Nissan 230JK
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| tried it once, changed it out after a couple hours and never again used it.....was causing excessive lifter noise (oil flow/pressure being restricted by the filter), went back to the sakura and all was well immeditely. |
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eitech Riding on 17's
Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Tech posts: 1213
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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tried fram once...worked fine but back to sakura for me  |
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Keyser Soze Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| Recently had a simillar problem with a starlet engine....after about a week oil leak like fuss time. changed to a Bosch filter, no problem since. |
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xxSTAY TUNEDxx Trinituner Peong
Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Tech posts: 407 Location: Dreamland My 2NRide:
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| wagonrunner wrote: | | how quickly it's bypass opens |
please elaborate....Thanks
| ~˜VëgŲ˜~ wrote: | | tried it once, changed it out after a couple hours and never again used it.....was causing excessive lifter noise (oil flow/pressure being restricted by the filter), went back to the sakura and all was well immeditely |
you said you changed it out after a couple hours so you didn't figure out the problem immediately...
How did you know it was the filter?
Thanks. |
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Dave 3NE 2NR Moderator
Joined: 22 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 12386 Location: playing with above and below My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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^^i can speak for the SR engines here
the fram media is a bit denser than others, which is good and bad, and in my experience, the chain rattle was longer with the fram than the purolator |
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cinco 18 pounds of Boost
Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Tech posts: 2485 Location: Indrani gyal tell meh why yuh hornin meh My 2NRide: Toyota Corolla
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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purolator ftw
or oem..... |
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ek4ever Trinituner Peong
Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Tech posts: 436 Location: Spot of Pain My 2NRide:
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| ^^ try K&N Premium Gold....one of the best constructed filters on the market |
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Honda_Crew Street 2NR
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Fram failed me once and cost me two bottles of royal purple.
Previous Fram filter oil seal ring came off and while screwing
up new filter not knowing the seal was there caused oil to
escape.
Same problem happend to my friend while changing his
oil, costing him 1 gal castrol syntec. |
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wagonrunner punchin NOS
Joined: 18 May 2004 Tech posts: 3625 Location: where the only valid opinion is theirs ....... :| My 2NRide: Nissan Y10 Wingroad LE
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| xxSTAY TUNEDxx wrote: | | wagonrunner wrote: | | how quickly it's bypass opens |
please elaborate....Thanks |
there were the results of a filter comparison posted here some time ago. can't find the thread.
but i have noticed my oil darkens a lot faster with the the fram than the purolator |
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Kinday Shifting into 6th
Joined: 19 May 2003 Tech posts: 1911 Location: 8800rpm My 2NRide: Honda Accord
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Had my share of problems with Fram not sealing well....not I use it if I have absolutely no choice. Purolator works great |
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venum 3NE2NR Diesel Boyz
Joined: 07 May 2004 Tech posts: 3638 Location: San Fernando My 2NRide: Mitsubishi L200 Animal
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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more evidence that FRAM = KRAP
Sakura, BOSCH or OEM FTW  |
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~˜VëgŲ˜~ 3NE 2NR Moderator
Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 33558 Location: Searching for the I My 2NRide: Nissan 230JK
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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| xxSTAY TUNEDxx wrote: |
| ~˜VëgŲ˜~ wrote: | | tried it once, changed it out after a couple hours and never again used it.....was causing excessive lifter noise (oil flow/pressure being restricted by the filter), went back to the sakura and all was well immeditely |
you said you changed it out after a couple hours so you didn't figure out the problem immediately...
How did you know it was the filter?
Thanks. |
because when I usually changed oil and used a sakura filter there was hardly ever (if any at all) lifter noise......the only thing that was different at that oil change was the fram filter....spoke to the mech about the lifter noise and he suggested that the fram tends to restrict the oil flow...and thus contributing to noisy lifters.......so I said to myself, well fram is supposed to be a big (brands up) company, the filter is supposed to be technologically good, let me run the car and see if the noise will quieten down eventually..........but it didn't and so a couple hours afterwards, I bought the usual sakura, changed out the fram and had immediate silencing of lifter noise.......
my last car (gdi galant) had plagued me with lifter noise until I came upon an oil/filter combo that kept it quiet........my oil changes were monthly due to the commute......so I'm just stating my experience.
that was then...now is strictly oem in this car.... |
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ek4ever Trinituner Peong
Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Tech posts: 436 Location: Spot of Pain My 2NRide:
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| bottom line is.....STAY AWAY FROM FRAM!!! |
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