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fire_wire
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 Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:25 pm
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Secondly, its t'dad...ppl would always yap bout how they could do much better but never show and then do a burnout in the road, which is kinda silly really.
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i think the burnouts were done to give some hype, ppl were desperate for it and seemed to like it.
for nisoc event were their any dwo members present, or drifters?
i guess maybe that is why nisoc was a no show. personally me just reading the post about having a wrecker, straightner on speed dial,for ppl that dont know what they doing etc.... thats silly. On sunday gone the usual majority of drivers on the track would have been the nissan guys. we should give them credit at least they dont spectate, they do their part and try to learn.
i guess they really knew what they doing afterall.
hope this feedback not offending anyone.
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Tsuchiya
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:52 pm
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^^desperate?? i won't go that far.
Becuz for example after drags when ppl get their fill of smoke, somebody always does a burnout to showoff...and IMO it aint hype, its wildness.
Furthermore, nobody force anyone to come watch, why do a burnout, come try a drift...it wasn't much.
Anyhow we'll take all the criticism and try to put on a proper show when the time comes |
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BlueIce
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:44 am
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i guess maybe that is why nisoc was a no show
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I wasnt there but i know the president and secretary came. They even took pics.
NISOC was indeed present. |
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Aaron 2NR
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:05 am
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about 5 members of nisoc came aorund 430-5
still event needed a better turn out..was really surprised curtis and jodi werent present |
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SR
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:53 am
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decemebr is a bad time for any motorsport event
people have others things to do that may now have to take priority |
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nyo
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:01 pm
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tunerman
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:39 pm
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quote from facebook:
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Event Info Name: December slide-a-thon
Tagline: Learn to control the out of control...
Host: Zorce Racing Magazine
Type: Sports - Sports Practice
Zorce didnt host the event, this meant zorce hosted it on facebook 
i saw the "drift king" spin his car on the track sunday, looked wicked. would that be classed as wildness. Even at the previous DWO slide fest there were 3 cars spinning on the track around 1 car that suppossingly had stalled....major WilDneSs. but at the end of the day is all fun.  |
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Tsuchiya
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:19 pm
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| ^^yup...all that is considered...if he wasn't doing it in the enclosed space rather than in the car park. |
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soundgodess
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:57 pm
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Attended the event in the afternoon, was all excited came prepared in full gear to drift,Only on arriving to be a bit disappointed. Sorry guys I know it was only a practice run but I saw a lot of stuff that was unprofessional like…
.There was no visible official to register for drifting
.the course was close to the spectators/drifters tent not a problem really cause it was a practice run but when one of the drifters was coming in a little to close to the tent and doing some dangerous runs the organizers just laughed were as the young boy was a few feet away I know that these are trained drivers but the margin of error even how small is still a risk one should not take.
.I must say two media reps did their part and came over and gave us a rundown on what was happening and the previous events.
As I said I am just doing constructive criticisms and I hope my views have not offended anyone. |
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Tsuchiya
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:01 pm
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^^nah...its all to better your next experience. All these items of interests are noted and discussed openly in meetings.
We're trying different things...some work out some don't; but its good to hear things from a different unbiased POV |
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nyo
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:04 am
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DWO/Tsuchya or whatever
I was not present at your slide-a-thon however after reading these post it seems like there are alot to be done, however keep up the good work>because i know every event has some kind of criticism>>
but changes happens with time.
SAFETY SHOULD BE A PRIORITY in the live of ourselves and others>>lets not take it for granted.
BTW: have you ever considered using a helmet knowing this is an extreme sport..
just a suggestion
ALSO hats to the person who took the pics>>well done |
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xtinguisher
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:42 am
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| Just curious...is there a club or someone who can teach people to drift in Trinidad or do you just have to practice on your own? Thanks.. |
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Tsuchiya
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:13 pm
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| nyo wrote: | DWO/Tsuchya or whatever
I was not present at your slide-a-thon however after reading these post it seems like there are alot to be done, however keep up the good work>because i know every event has some kind of criticism>>
but changes happens with time.
SAFETY SHOULD BE A PRIORITY in the live of ourselves and others>>lets not take it for granted.
BTW: have you ever considered using a helmet knowing this is an extreme sport..
just a suggestion
ALSO hats to the person who took the pics>>well done |
i totally agree with u. We didn't start off with helmets becuz they're expensive for the avg person, but a lil money spent is better than a cracked skull.
We were looking at other time attack-style events and realised they weren't using helmets either, so we were kind of lax on it. But maybe is time to change that.
And we're just trying different things, see what works and what doesn't. |
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tunerman
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:53 pm
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aye aye hear what.... organize a competition.  "drift wars"  ...kerry vs jodi.
get 3 judges or let the crowd judge. that will be something eh!
now that will have a turnout crowd.
best of DWO vs best of NISOC  |
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Tsuchiya
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:16 pm
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^^ and how long will that be for...15 minutes? There's so much more we need to look at, and Kerry and Jodi shouldn't be the one to bear the weight of an entire drift event. Yes we can do it as a feature, but we'd have to do so much buildup IMO
We'll see |
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Drift Demon
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:06 am
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tunerman
As much as that reccmmendation is a hype, it is difficult to have just two persons in a competition>>a tandem might be more appropiate>>but besides that we need to have judges who are competant >which i don't for see at the moment( in so who knows about drifting and what to jugde/look for in a drift as being best drift,longest drift etc>>the list goes on
But remember this type of sport is new here in t'dad so it is something that will have to happen in time |
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Greentransformer
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:38 am
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| Rensh, good pics |
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NarendZORCE
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:48 pm
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| Drift Demon wrote: | i have been present to all the drifting sessions so far by DWO & NISOC>>i know that narend gave a list of criticism for nisoc event about concerns so where is his remarks about this event>>>or is it he is just discriminative
Narend Zorce >> what is your comment now?
THE FOLLOWING WAS NOT PRESENT AT THE EVENT:
No Caution tape
No drinks
No disposal
No garbage bags
No food
No ambulance
No wrecker
Course was a feet feet away from tent and people
no or limited particpants
no one to move the barrier away from the exist, drivers had to come out their car move the barrier to get out.
no flags for racemarshalls, no red, yellow
the beginning of the course was dangerous, the car heads straight into a tent which has cars,people etc
Narend since you were a host>> it clearly show that you are Bias in your allegations.>>>just a waste>>who like to bump the gum>>as they what good for one good for all. |
LET'S GET A FEW THINGS CLEAR:
1) We MARKETED this event on Facebook, and DID NOT HOST IT. In the description of the event it was CLEARLY STATED "This event is organized by the D.W.O. - Drift World Order." We also do the same for CARS/Solodex and TTKA/Karting and next year we will be posting events for TTRC/Rally.
So take your suspicions of "my bias for my event" somewhere else.
2) This event was a PRACTICE MEET. And it was marketed as such. The NISOCTT event was marketed as a FULL DRIFT & GRIP competition– something which we are clearly NOT READY FOR. The course was not even agreed on even when competitors starting drifting.
3) There was no mention of food & drink being on sale in the marketing, so DWO did not promise what it could not deliver.
4) I would still consider the NISOCTT event a success, but when you involve the public, marshalls, media and competitors of an OFFICIAL event you MUST have proper and complete safety in place.
5) Just because I may not have the time to post online 24-7 does not make me biased or without opinion.
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And now for a few observations of my own: more constructive criticism, this time for DWO
1) As seen in Rensh's pictures a few people though it fit to burn out on the ROAD, instead of actually coming into the arena where there was a safer place to perform such activity. I have a big problem with this as the whole objective of the practice meet it to bring these guys in and turn this enthusiasm into something they can become really good at.
2) Kerry came close to the tent and despite his excellent skills, it would not have been tolerated as easily with anyone else. Double standard? Bad example? Yes.
3) Too much of the event centered around Kerry being present. While he was off getting tires there was a big lull as the DWO team passed time. IMO some training could have proceeded with another member of the DWO. Perhaps it is too early for this to happen since Kerry is the top drifter??? More teamwork needed.
4) The practice course needs to be drawn on a sheet of paper with the drift tutoring exercises outlined for potential students to understand what they are going to attempt. Perhaps this can save Kerry and DWO trainers some time. IMO Kudos to the driver of the black Lancer, who as a first timer showed the most promise. Candace is improving and the turbo Cefiro is looking great.
5) Tent/Pit Area needs to be made safer and rules kept WRT safety/driving etc.
6) It would be nice to have some toilet facilities, I know this is added expense but it is essential. The cost can easily be picked up by an event sponsor.
7) A waiver register, similar to that used at Solodex should be signed disclaiming the club from indemnity in the event of an accident i.e. stating that motorsport is dangerous and you enter at your own risk.
8 ) Someone needs to monitor entrants who wish to participate and at least inform potential drifters of the procedure for entering, starting lessons and going out on the main course.
9) Some basic food & drinks on sale would be great.
TO DRIFT DEMON:
Are you here to make suggestions for progress or to firetruck people up personally? I felt like I did my duty in the interest of safety and if you feel you need to do the same then WTF, am I stopping you??? Man, level criticism, tell us what you think can be improved.
That is actually the POINT of this thread.
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NarendZORCE
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:54 pm
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| tunerman wrote: | quote from facebook:
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Event Info Name: December slide-a-thon
Tagline: Learn to control the out of control...
Host: Zorce Racing Magazine
Type: Sports - Sports Practice
Zorce didnt host the event, this meant zorce hosted it on facebook
i saw the "drift king" spin his car on the track sunday, looked wicked. would that be classed as wildness. Even at the previous DWO slide fest there were 3 cars spinning on the track around 1 car that suppossingly had stalled....major WilDneSs. but at the end of the day is all fun. |
I know it can be confusing but we have to be the facebook host in order to efficiently invite all members of the Zorce group to any event. If you change the host then you have to click through the membership one by one. At 1100+ and growing that just takes too long. Once the members are invited the facebook host becomes fixed.
As stated before we do this for CARS, TTKA, TTRC, IASCA, VK and DWO events. We can also do the same for NISOCTT and other groups/promoters.
But we do try:
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NarendZORCE
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:06 pm
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So, NISOC, DWO and others how about we make a Drift Event Wishlist instead of getting into a pissing contest about who I complain about.
I'll start:
*** DRIFT PRACTICE EVENT WISHLIST ***
Public Toilets
It is essential for everyone.
Sponsors/Banners etc.
Even at practice events a little financial help in exchange for some well positioned mileage goes a long way.
*** DRIFT OFFICIAL EVENT WISHLIST ***
Public Toilets
It is essential for everyone.
Sponsors/Banners etc.
Even at practice events a little financial help in exchange for some well positioned mileage goes a long way.
Patience and common Sense
Wait until the track is clear and marshalls are ready before sending cars out drifting/racing.
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