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Razkal
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:11 am
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^we'll get results in a timing fellas, doh worry Cool
roshan01, camber kit will help you, but i think you should focus on more fundamental stuff first...
example, your car has a lot of power to the front wheels, which by nature tend to under steer, with that extra power, possible torque steer (You have an LSD?) and the characteristic understeer, the car is going to feel crappy through the corners.

Start with some good springs and shocks, a thicker rear sway bar introduces some oversteer but that will help neutralize the handling in your car Idea
A strut tower brace helps keep the front stable when you go into boost and that power starts to hit the ground.
Polyurethane bushings help alot, i bought a kit for my car and i\the improvements i felt were definitely worth every cent Mr. Green
I saw your stopping power was pretty well done, slotted rotors etc, so thats good!
Dont forget the only part of a vehicle that actually makes contact with the road is your tyres, so get a good set, used tyres aren't that bad, and cheaper to abuse at solodex, just check for the lowest treadwear available so you maximize grip.
And experiment on the course, find the smoothest line, slow entry and fast exit speeds are a rule of thumb i learnt from the more experienced guys, braking in a straight line before the corners helps to maintain traction as much as possible, avoid braking during negotiating a corner as it will cause you to lose momentum and possibly traction as well, also, you should never find yourself downshifting during a corner, you should already be in a lower gear before you enter the corner (if necessary)....just some stuff i picked up from the more experienced drivers at dex...and works fine for me, i'm learning alot as well, but starting off with some good advice never hurt anyone Smile
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roshan01
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:10 pm
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the civic already has good springs (eibach) and energy suspension on it...
already have the lsd on there as well...

i was hunting for tyres before dex cud not find 17" victors ...
or proxies either...

if anybody knows where i can find some it wud be great!!!
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Yorkshirelass
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:41 pm
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^^^boy Razkal, I nominating you for President next rounds lol
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:50 am
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I will second it!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:27 am
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used tyres aren't that bad, and cheaper to abuse at solodex, just check for the lowest treadwear available so you maximize grip.



Really? Hmm, I third that motion...Now tell me more bout this Polyurethane bushings you talk about..
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saltydog
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:35 am
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how bout head of dex 2k9? we looking for new blood
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Razkal
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:40 am
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Yorkshirelass wrote:
^^^boy Razkal, I nominating you for President next rounds lol

What!? Shocked Nah nah! Laughing I'll stick around and learn the ropes first Cool


roshan01, Why 17s? If 16's or even 15's can clear your brakes use the 15's, 15" victors are much cheaper and easier to find.
I found in the AE111 corolla i used for the first 3 events (stock as a duck Confused ) that using 205/50/15 in front and 195/50/15 in the back with higher tyre pressures in front (to help sidewall wear) made the car feel alot more neutral, i still got some body roll, but thast just because the stock suspension is too soft...remember even if you have springs with a stiffer character on stock shocks u may need more dampening force to work best with teh springs... try some sway bars (bamboo always has some good stuff lying around man) to help with body roll and keeping the car mostly "level" under cornering...
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roshan01
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:19 am
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17's cus tha is the only set of wheels i have for the honda and i'm not sure if 16's will fit ... have to try ah set...

i have a rear sway bar thingy. will install for next dex...
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Razkal
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:09 pm
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^the thickness of the bar will affect the car considerably eh, too thick a bar will intropduce more oversteer than you're accustomed to in the car, so install it and get a feel for it, you're lucky, next dex is a BYCC so you can practice your techniques all day! Very Happy
How big are your brakes? i would think 16s should fit with no issue, and tyres for 16" wheels aren't that ahrd to come by, atleast for what you would use, i'd think nothing wider than 225 would fit with no issue on your car...
check [b[7381[/b] and Dragon Imports in the classifieds, they have alot of used whees for sale, some good wheels too! Shocked Volks, FET sports etc etc...in all sizes and good prices so check them out, trust me, a spare set of wheels and tyres will help alot in dex Laughing
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moti
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:37 pm
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so wham you can't help a bro with some advice on solodex too

Neutral i only dnf on all my runs in dex 4 Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:06 pm
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Moti, the way to NOT DNF, is to walk the course as much as you can, I walked three times. Take a walk with an experienced person and understand the cone conventions.

TAKE YOUR TIME first run. The key to doing well, is to understand the course.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:15 pm
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CBH i walked the course and i understood the course

* the one salty posted the tuesday before though *

on actual day the course had a slight change with the gate before the entrance to the second lap.

so this is me in the car taking a look at the course on paper before a run
then when i done run it was a dnf.

happen to me all four times Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:17 pm
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That is why you need to talk to an experienced person. If you DNF'd once, you needed to clear it up right after. Don't take the paper as gospel, the course may be differ slightly.
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roshan01
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:14 am
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i was late and did not get a chance to walk the course.. outta four runs i think i finished only one... and i have me 12" rotors up front so i'm thinking maybe some 16's wud fit...

yo cbh you had the siliver evo?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:21 am
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no the white one.
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roshan01
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:30 am
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ohh that evo runs well bro..

great machine...

i'll own one some day..
maybe when i'm true wiith the honda...
do you have mods on it?
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Razkal
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:13 pm
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^The car puts down about 750whp easily, but CBH is just the shiddiest driver ever Laughing #laughpoke
*doh make no joke bout mih door flying open eh Randy Mad , we go fight*
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moti
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:28 pm
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^^^ by chance your seat does the ejecto thing from
fast & fur. 2 Neutral
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:34 pm
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moti wrote:
^^^ by chance your seat does the ejecto thing from
fast & fur. 2 Neutral


HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
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moti
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:39 pm
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CBH is just reading he post and i remember tyrese sayin

" EJECTO SEATO CUZZ "

Laughing Laughing
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