CVT vs manual

_santa_ · Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:50 am Post subject: CVT vs manual

at about 60kmph the constant max hp is gained since the high rpm remains steady...so that means it is faster than a manual right? I'm considering converting to manual but from what was described on some websites the only disadvantages are the sluggish take off and high maintenance

X2 · Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:23 am Post subject:

Hp to Hp...on a roll you should be faster in a CVT since you maintain a high rpm and don't need to shift.... from a stop... a CVT car will get burnt.

SKIDMARQS · Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:29 pm Post subject:

Where's the fun in a CVT tho....limited or no bornouts, no chirping of tyres between gears, no clutch popping Sad

I have seen runs with SR20s, pound for pound the same setup with the only difference being box vs CVT and as X2 said the launch from a dead stop went to the box, esp in the crowd pleaser category. Very Happy

However, any driver error with the box gave way for an advantage 2 the CVT.
Also distance between gear changes gave a fraction of a length gain to the CVT.
Me, I still luv meh box, but depending on your sit'n the CVT is a reasonable compromise.
As for maintenance, treat your CVT good (ie follow the dealer guide to servicing) and she'll return the favour.

Marct · Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject:

I've have both and still prefer the manual to the CVT. The manaual can take roughing up and if you tweek your engine properly you can maximise the output.

CVT needs to much care and attention , overall the speed is supposed to build up faster than a manual. Now this depends on the type of CVT , if you talking Honda VI you on, if you talking Mitsui GDI god help you, the Mitsui is one of the most sluggish CVT's around. Also thefluid generally in most CVT's needs to changed evry 20,000km.

I've only changed the clutch once in my car (about 8yrs) Wife honda is 4 yrs and changed trans fluid about 4 times already.

fras · Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:59 pm Post subject:

^^^ u ever drove a lancer glx 1.6? I find they have a nice pull, only thing the 2nd & 3rd gear run close to red line. And if u know how to work it people would swear its manual!

3stagevtec · Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:46 am Post subject:

I own the Civic Vi and it's alot of fun watching the revs max out and the car continuing to acclerate. From a roll, the car is very quick! One time, i managed to keep up with a Subaru Forester S/Turbo!

Taking off from a stand still though makes me want to kill the damn thing! I can either get kept up with or outrun by supposidly slower cars. It has advantages and disadvantages like every other transmission ever built.

ReneR

red5FWD · Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:03 am Post subject:

CVT is nice but i hated it since it couldn't handle the rough up...that's y i did the conversion; only then u see what the engine can really do Razz

and as said before it is cheap to maintain

Marct · Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:06 pm Post subject:

3stagevtec · Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject:

turbochinee · Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:56 pm Post subject:

well i like the little sports mode thing, especially like if i am running with another car and we are neck and neck and i just switch into sports mode you just hear that engine rev up louder and watch your rpm swing.

I always wondered if you are running a man who isnt so much inclined about cars and you do that to him if he would think that you punched on him, because in sports mode your car really picks up. Very Happy

Just thinking stupid things again Embarassed

Marct · Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:04 pm Post subject:

I've had the kn drop in for about 3yrs now no trouble at all> I wondering about that p/up yuh talking bout it have a man with a beat up, one rusty and real looking bad but boosted. Blow off value was the give away.

dragaholic · Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject:

Ask fixables about his 60ft in a cvt turbo charged civic. He would avg 2.7/8(it may have been higher) where a manual civic non-turbo can easily do 2.4s. His civic use to run 15.5s, imagine with the lowered 60ft what it would have ran.

X2 · Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject:

Fixables used to do 3.0 for 60' with those mid 15 times... believe it or not ! 94++ mph trap speed too.... dios mio ! CVT in ya nenen...

Cleriq · Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject:

Yes yes, I must say, that lil CVT thingy is some fun.
And since Fixables show me the 'pump-the-pedal' thing, it was that much more fun.

But that 60' time is crucial these days; 3.0 sec 60' time jus doh cut it again. Ent Richard?

turbochinee · Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:18 pm Post subject:

and his was non vtec right?

r_4sr · Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:29 pm Post subject:

how yuh duz do dat pump pedal ting???

Marct · Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:33 pm Post subject:

punch it release and punch it harder the 2nd time

General · Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject:

I had cvt before and i converted it to manuel, no regrets at all,
i run against my parthner civic recently, and he has some slight mods in his car, and i beat him, and my car is basically stock, except for an regular intake with an auto ecu, no extractors, plugs, exhaust and stuff, and it run pretty well, dat waz ahh nice run dey ehh chiney Twisted Evil

can wait to get dat manuel ecu
so doh even waste yuh time on CVT unless iz yuh wifey car Laughing

manuel does make yuh love yuh car even more trust mehhhhh

turbochinee · Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:50 pm Post subject:

dizzEK3h · Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:41 pm Post subject:

the fun in driving a performance car is in shifting gears, CVT / Automatics are for women.
Kobe Bryant spent almost a million US dollars to put an automatic trans in his wifey Ferrari 430
Modena.Do yourself a big favor convert to the shift passion.