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audioholic big D Street 2NR
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't mean ta sound like a total noob but can someone explain the BIG 3 plz .... i never came across it before ....much appreciated |
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3stagevtec punchin NOS
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Tech posts: 4430 Location: killing two stones with one bird... My 2NRide: Suzuki Grand Vitara
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| audioholic big D wrote: | | I don't mean ta sound like a total noob but can someone explain the BIG 3 plz .... i never came across it before ....much appreciated |
google it or search this forum.. there's lots of info in it.. |
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audioholic big D Street 2NR
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| cool thanks |
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ChristianRD Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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^ what an ironic username you got there  |
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Chiney punchin NOS
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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for real eh
so spam..big 3 yet? |
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3stagevtec punchin NOS
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Tech posts: 4430 Location: killing two stones with one bird... My 2NRide: Suzuki Grand Vitara
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:15 am Post subject: |
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have a look for those who don't know..
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SR Chief Cook & Instigator
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:49 am Post subject: |
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| spam wrote: | ^^^ YEA SR that is the battery and like rovin said they came with the car really
so i think i would have to switch out the batteries first and then see how that hold up and then the alternator would have to switch?
goin to the other forum to see who have battery for sale stupes.
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now also did anyone check the condotion of each battery by itself??
1 bad battery in the loop can cause problems
suggest load testing each battery to compare battery condition and status |
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madman.devin 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:30 am Post subject: |
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May b I'm expecting to much from rockford but i think thats a pretty shiddy install.
Guess it's just to give guys an idea of what to do..
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SR Chief Cook & Instigator
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:38 am Post subject: |
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shh
but it give the basics on what to do for the big 3
alternator wire should have been loomed at least due to length and location |
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audioholic big D Street 2NR
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| ChristianRD wrote: | ^ what an ironic username you got there  |
its a learning experience bro doh be hatein lol |
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audioholic big D Street 2NR
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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THANKs 3stage i didn't know there was a name for that but i know exactly what it is they're doing i did it to in my car .....again thanks |
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spam 3NE2NR is my LIFE
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| SR wrote: | | spam wrote: | ^^^ YEA SR that is the battery and like rovin said they came with the car really
so i think i would have to switch out the batteries first and then see how that hold up and then the alternator would have to switch?
goin to the other forum to see who have battery for sale stupes.
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dont spend any money as yet
i need to see the system and do some checks and we can contact kinetic for advice based on what you already have
i have good contacts there on the technical side |
well changing the batteries is the last step i am doin thing piece by peice and recordin my progress.
today i did the BIG 3 upgrade and YES it made a difference in the voltage
which now rest with the car on between 14 - 14.2 voltage but it drops
very low **11.9 - 12.2** very fast. My next step would be to charge
each and every battery in the system and try them again.
PS. i dont have a battery charger so if anyone wit a charger is willing to
help out please let me know.
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spam 3NE2NR is my LIFE
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| SR wrote: | | spam wrote: | ^^^ YEA SR that is the battery and like rovin said they came with the car really
so i think i would have to switch out the batteries first and then see how that hold up and then the alternator would have to switch?
goin to the other forum to see who have battery for sale stupes.
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now also did anyone check the condotion of each battery by itself??
1 bad battery in the loop can cause problems
suggest load testing each battery to compare battery condition and status |
explain load testing ? i would have to try this over the weekend
can i google that ?
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SR Chief Cook & Instigator
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spam 3NE2NR is my LIFE
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:20 am Post subject: |
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QUESTION:
if i hook up my amps and run the rcas to them but i dont put any speakers
if i raise volume and stuff would it still pull current and show a drop in voltage ?
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kurpal_v2 Riding on 16's
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| spam wrote: | QUESTION:
if i hook up my amps and run the rcas to them but i dont put any speakers
if i raise volume and stuff would it still pull current and show a drop in voltage ?
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Interesting line of thought spam, I always took for granted that it shouldnt show a drop in voltage beacuse no output is being taken from the amp but at the same time signal is being feed and power also so on one hand yes and another no... The things we take for granted eh  |
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3stagevtec punchin NOS
Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Tech posts: 4430 Location: killing two stones with one bird... My 2NRide: Suzuki Grand Vitara
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| most amps draw about 1 ampere of current to remain on.. and they usually pull a small surge of current just to turn on as well.. after that small surge, current draw will remain at ~1A until you connect some subs to it.. |
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theblitz Chronic TriniTuner
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Tech posts: 613 Location: South Trinidad My 2NRide: Toyota Corolla
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:05 am Post subject: |
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| spam wrote: | QUESTION:
if i hook up my amps and run the rcas to them but i dont put any speakers
if i raise volume and stuff would it still pull current and show a drop in voltage ?
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No, nothing like if there were a load on the amps output. |
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spam 3NE2NR is my LIFE
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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UPDATE:
well from those who know me know that i always diggin up in my system especially when something not right.
so anyways like i said b4 this system not much different from the one i had b4 and wit only 2 spv70 my voltage would be between 12.5 - 13.2 and high volumes. my current system has 4 batteries and wont hold voltage not even at mid volume.
i tried everything from higher rpm, BIG 3 upgrade, cap *yes i tried the cap* nothing worked.i also test each individual battery and all were fine, so being me i scrap all the amps out so i could take a look at the wiring. so i checked from the amps go back and the only "problem" i could see was, the wire running from the alternator ran to distribution block where the batteries and amps were also connected.
at first i was like that should be ok then i started askin myself questions, WAT IF WHEN THE BASS HITS IT SUCKS THE CURRENT FROM THE ALTERNATOR FIRST INSTEAD OF THE BATTERIES ? that would explain the big drop in the engine rpm when the bass hits. thinkin bout that i also scrap all the wires and started fresh.
i ran the alternator wire to 1 battery connected all 4 like b4 and then ran the power wire to the distribution block where the amps would feed from. after i hooked everything up i bring my amps to test.
started the car to see a nice 14.4 on the meter chose a song that i knew always went down to 11.8....so i chose the song pause the music and crank it up to playin volume. and waited for the bass to kick in. to my surprise i when i checked the meter i saw 12.5 -12.7 nothing below. i tested a few other songs to make sure and the voltage is indeed holdin up.
the bass also songs alot more powerful and stiff now.
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spam 3NE2NR is my LIFE
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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would the level of your gains also contribute to the amps pulling more power ?
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