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venum
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:37 am
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blazing wrote:
no offence but thats not much of a brake upgrade..

and arent those cheap rotors a bit dangerous?


blazing

the experience of several of the CS lancer owners here is that the OEM rotors warp and provide unstable braking

Idlemind has decided to resolve this problem and experiment with these aftermarkets

his experience will pioneer a whole new avenue for countless CS owners who have this similar problem, globally

cheap after market rotors aren't necessarily dangerous - Rudman has some Arospeed on for about 2 years on his CK lancer and they wuking fine

fellas, while my CS will be selling, allyuh forget that it's 2 CS3's that I see about

it's the babied-up one that is going

the GF's is still in my care
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:30 pm
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Guys am thinking about some more suspension work is there a coil over system or some drop springs that maybe able to help me out if so can someone who bought some tell me of the ride and location and price so i too can purchase right now the back of my can is too high looks even past stock


Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:04 am
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While your intentions seem good, i am just questioning weather it is wise...

I drive a CK so i know about crap brakes and the times i drove the CS nothing seemed wrong but i've heard about the warped rotor situation.

Now why did you choose those no-name, crossdrilled rotors? Aren't there other options available such as the brembo solid discs, powerslot discs, etc? Even expensive cross-drilled rotors crack sometimes under heavy application..what are the possibilities of a cheaper version to do the same?

For everyday driving i would go with a solid brembo or a slotted disc from a more reputable company.

Or what about a direct swap from mitsubishi to mitsubishi, can anyone confirm if the CS brake setup is the same as the CK? If it is, then you could put on some bigger discs and calipers and have a real brake upgrade.

Your rotors may work out fine and work perfectly, so these are just some questions to keep in mind since your brakes are not something that you should be "experimenting" randomly with and your life is at stake should anything go wrong. Cool
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venum
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:20 am
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^^^ you are right

I am a firm believer in "you get what you pay for"

but idle did his homework

so time and testing will tell if the economy option i worth the $ or whether it;s worth teh economy

as for the CK option,

teh CS carries bigger discs and calipers than teh CK

that is why the braking on teh CS is so much improved, one area Mitsu designdid not leave out in teh model upgrade
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:01 am
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^^^ ah not selling mine ....

btw idlemind your car is 1.8 correct, have to checked to see if the rotor size is the same as for the 1.6 and 1.5 ?

i have a feeling it will not be Sad
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idlemind
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:57 am
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JUS4SHO, yeah it is, but i believe it WILL WORK! research showed that these rotor manufacturers class the lancers as ES, LS and OZ...the ES is 100mm. LS is 114mm and OZ is 5 lug. 1.3/1.5/1.6/1.8 issue was never brought up. and the only diff i saw between ES/LS/OZ where the wheel spacing. I believe we all got ES.
Fras is also looking to buy end of month and Guys i have the oem rotors in my trunk so if anyone wants a line up jus say. it wont be a problem.

venum and blazing, while the R1 option was cheaper, the quality of the rotor is unquestionable. they are solid and i carefully scrutinized it for flaws.
remember with any aftermarket product, no matter brand, its all a CHANCE you take fellas. I felt comfortable in purchasing these rotors! All my runs are East/West and anytime i build up some speed i have to slow for a traffic light. i never get an opportunity to cross 170 and believe me with the oem rotors i wasnt taking that chance. It was truly a scary ride.

blazing, as venum said i did my homework. OEM brembo solids are NOT good check it out!! read some reviews and see, talk bout rusting and warping. slotted/drilled brembos were way out of my budget. and others seemed ridiculously priced to take a chance with. bear in mind that i looked at OEM spec rotors so that i wonr need to change the Caliper or braking setup. but rest assured im not going to be jamming on those brakes anytime soon. tiptronic ftw!

As for going back OEM. fras and I were looking into it and you looking at $2500TT for one side if im not mistaken. and from my trini and singaporian ppl, oem are going to warp again. machining them going to warp and take away from spec.

blazing, i hear your concern and thanks for looking out! I will observe and stay sharp. but buddy i can safely tell you now, that me and the neighbouring suspension parts felt more in danger with the OEM.

As for the ride so far, its great, comfortable, no squeaks, no slips. but im not putting them to the test. during the week im gonna pop off the wheels and take some 'update' pics
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:18 am
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idlemind

I await your results I was thinking abt selling and looking to purchase one ah those 08 from the firm or one of the turbo wagons but plans have chnaged as it will affect my budget

so I am keeping and looking to change engine next year maybe 1.8 or so nothing fancy the vented disc rotors would be a nice upgrade for it what I was also looking at was disc brakes for the rear was speaking to someone over the weekend and told me that he can get the rear set up but it will cost around $5,000.00 right now I considering i
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:43 am
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i know persons who used the R1 brand which in many circles considered an upgrade from the oem for daily use...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:01 pm
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ronsin1, if you changing from the GDI go EFI, dont waste ur time on going back 1.8 GDI (that is if you meant 1.8 GDI). The rotors are nice and to me it wasnt an upgrade, more like a needed swap. but its really an eyecatcher, i must say. the rear setup was never really an option i looked into. i owned an integra with rear discs before and i never found it to be any different from drums. what i can vouch for is if you go thru water or those rear discs get wet...expect skid/slip and a delayed stop. not a nice sight if someone pulls brakes on you.

$5k seems steep... pm teichou and fras about the conversion exp.

JUS4SHO, nice vouch
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:49 pm
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Idle,

good update, keep the pics coming and teh driving experience as well

ronsin1 buy my car !

rear disc brakes aren't such a great brake upgrade IMHO
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:52 pm
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thanks for the advice idlemind will take that into consideration I have the 1.5 GDI and will be changing to EFI but will have to look at my options

venum can't take your baby away from you and you know if ah sell ah not going to buy the same body shape either the wagon or the 08 lancer

or might go like you and look at the diesel Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:55 pm
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^^^ I hear yuh pal
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:02 am
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fella you know Diamond have a set of the 04-07 shaped lancers that the selling real cheap... top trim model is $146,000 i think i mean yeah you can get a 3 year old f/used for $90K plus but its a new car with 100 K warrenty
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:44 am
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$146,000 aint bad, but it coulda be lower considering the lots of ppl considering the 08 now. think it gonna get any cheaper in future??

financing will still be available outside DM?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:49 am
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finance can be availabe outside DM
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:51 am
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ronsin1 5K is too much... Got one in the bamboo 2K complete!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:39 am
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i paid 2k5 for the full rear dick brakes setup i have on my cs
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:41 pm
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well I did not look around eh was just tell the guy I intend to do this swap and thas the price he told me
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:51 pm
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DOH GIVE THEM THAT INFO BUDDY ..GESHHHHH
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:13 pm
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No1 ain't check my springs for me GESHHHHHH!!!!!!! fras ven let me hear u all Mr. Green
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