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JUS4SHO
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:15 am
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aritei waiting on this result also
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:56 pm
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Guys i just saw the coolest thing tonight well to me it was

Car CS2-GDI

What was so cool the guy changed around his head lights i.e his high beam was on alone blinding me and when i went into the car the switch was on 1st position i.e low beam and when switched to high beam the lows came on

Any views on this it was real funny too Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:17 am
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ummm all you do is switch a couple wires ... thats not cool its dumb
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:50 am
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thats not cool its dumb


Laughing Laughing a bit confusing if a man borrows ur car

got the rotors today guys, they look decent..jus a couple of the holes are off spot, spoke to a mech and he says its not a problem, but im concerned nevertheless.

il post pics in a few minutes
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:55 am
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line it up damn it Exclamation

take pics of it then
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:20 am
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ok obviously they can be worked for both 100mm and 114mm Laughing
what im concerned about is the positioning of the two other smaller holes



as i said the mech says it doesnt matter, jus need the time to put then on, also initial observations conclude that the full diameter, disc pad area and thickness matches the oem
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:03 am
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new addition guys

ill post the rest later.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:04 pm
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it look like u have bounce down a space man...lol

idlemind take the rotors to a machine shop and see if the balanced if so they good to go
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:34 pm
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ok obviously they can be worked for both 100mm and 114mm Laughing
what im concerned about is the positioning of the two other smaller holes



as i said the mech says it doesnt matter, jus need the time to put then on, also initial observations conclude that the full diameter, disc pad area and thickness matches the oem



Ok, let us know how it work's....
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:23 pm
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JUS4SHO wrote:
it look like u have bounce down a space man...lol


that is genghis on teh ground holding up teh bumper

he didn't want to rest teh bumper on bricks, so he went under teh car to hold it

he like silver clothes - does real match shirt and pants
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:29 pm
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Good News Guys Laughing
we have a workable, reasonably priced aftermarket rotor option
and here are the pics:

taking a lil sleep before the drive in surgery:


up on the bed with new limb beside:


removal:


transplant:


rightside ready:


closer look at the caliper:


leftside install:


ease in the caliper


done:


looks good:


when i reached back to work about 10mins away:
notice the dust as the new pads nolikey


OK what i couldve done by myself freely, costed $70 to install @ mileage mack. now its very easy to do once you have the tools. I of course didn know and didn mind.

I dont have a total landed cost yet, by weekend il know the full damage
but for now the improvments i feelin are:

1. Lighter wheel rotation, maybe because they're a bit lighter than oem
2. Definate improvement in stopping (quicker)
3. The Wagners i put on in October giving me a little bite the moment the car stops completely, like a rrrrt. Once i release its good. Might need to look into it if it doesnt quiet down, maybe change the pads one time.

No high speed testing until i am completely certain satisfied and confident.
(mite be tonite comin from arima to trincity Mr. Green )
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:42 pm
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***UPDATE***

rrrrt sound when braking completely gone now,
im not getting any sort of friction noise...seems like the pads have adjusted
used tiptronic tonight to assist in braking from 100kmh+
still not 100% comfortable yet, giving it extra time to work in
by tomorow we will see
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:03 am
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dude, WONDERFUL pics and write up

allyuh making meh proud

when I leave this thread in a few when the car is sold, I will be leaving it in good hands Smile

do not give too much hard braking on those rotors as yet

give em a couple days break-in. you don't want to scorch them, highly unlikely with those Wagners though
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:48 am
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no offence but thats not much of a brake upgrade..

and arent those cheap rotors a bit dangerous?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:42 am
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venum wrote:
dude, WONDERFUL pics and write up

allyuh making meh proud

when I leave this thread in a few when the car is sold, I will be leaving it in good hands Smile

do not give too much hard braking on those rotors as yet

give em a couple days break-in. you don't want to scorch them, highly unlikely with those Wagners though


WHA WHA WHAAAT
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:11 am
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^^^ man sellin to go mitsu diesel powa
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:55 am
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blazing wrote:
no offence but thats not much of a brake upgrade..

and arent those cheap rotors a bit dangerous?


If you own a CS you will know the OEM Rotors are no good
These rotors although cheaper, have been tried and tested and reviewed by other regular customers that own this model lancer. Other rotors i looked at didn have any lancer reviews.

Worst case scenario i machine the OEM and put them back, but then what? Six months later i do the same??? Man my rotors didn even have a lip dug into them and you should see chaos braking from 100km.

Venum Thanks Man i learnin from the Best though, but where you think you going?
The voices in your head tell you when you get rid of the CS you gonna stop posting here???? End them NOW Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:21 pm
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I finally got my net back and is smiles from ear to ear Laughing My rotors next!

blazing if u own a Lancer u'll know about their brake rotors!
Also It wasn't a brake up-grade... The rotors needed changing so why go back oem right!

By the way You CS3 men that thinking about converting to Manual teichou's conversion is complete... I'll have him do a lil write up on exactly whats needed and wiring info!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:56 pm
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This thread does bring tears to my eyes good stuff meng cant wait to see and read teichou's write up
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:14 am
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Yuh know... I having second thoughts about selling mine!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:37 am
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blazing wrote:
no offence but thats not much of a brake upgrade..

and arent those cheap rotors a bit dangerous?


blazing

the experience of several of the CS lancer owners here is that the OEM rotors warp and provide unstable braking

Idlemind has decided to resolve this problem and experiment with these aftermarkets

his experience will pioneer a whole new avenue for countless CS owners who have this similar problem, globally

cheap after market rotors aren't necessarily dangerous - Rudman has some Arospeed on for about 2 years on his CK lancer and they wuking fine

fellas, while my CS will be selling, allyuh forget that it's 2 CS3's that I see about

it's the babied-up one that is going

the GF's is still in my care
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:30 pm
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Guys am thinking about some more suspension work is there a coil over system or some drop springs that maybe able to help me out if so can someone who bought some tell me of the ride and location and price so i too can purchase right now the back of my can is too high looks even past stock


Thanks
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While your intentions seem good, i am just questioning weather it is wise...

I drive a CK so i know about crap brakes and the times i drove the CS nothing seemed wrong but i've heard about the warped rotor situation.

Now why did you choose those no-name, crossdrilled rotors? Aren't there other options available such as the brembo solid discs, powerslot discs, etc? Even expensive cross-drilled rotors crack sometimes under heavy application..what are the possibilities of a cheaper version to do the same?

For everyday driving i would go with a solid brembo or a slotted disc from a more reputable company.

Or what about a direct swap from mitsubishi to mitsubishi, can anyone confirm if the CS brake setup is the same as the CK? If it is, then you could put on some bigger discs and calipers and have a real brake upgrade.

Your rotors may work out fine and work perfectly, so these are just some questions to keep in mind since your brakes are not something that you should be "experimenting" randomly with and your life is at stake should anything go wrong. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:20 am
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^^^ you are right

I am a firm believer in "you get what you pay for"

but idle did his homework

so time and testing will tell if the economy option i worth the $ or whether it;s worth teh economy

as for the CK option,

teh CS carries bigger discs and calipers than teh CK

that is why the braking on teh CS is so much improved, one area Mitsu designdid not leave out in teh model upgrade
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:01 am
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^^^ ah not selling mine ....

btw idlemind your car is 1.8 correct, have to checked to see if the rotor size is the same as for the 1.6 and 1.5 ?

i have a feeling it will not be Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:57 am
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JUS4SHO, yeah it is, but i believe it WILL WORK! research showed that these rotor manufacturers class the lancers as ES, LS and OZ...the ES is 100mm. LS is 114mm and OZ is 5 lug. 1.3/1.5/1.6/1.8 issue was never brought up. and the only diff i saw between ES/LS/OZ where the wheel spacing. I believe we all got ES.
Fras is also looking to buy end of month and Guys i have the oem rotors in my trunk so if anyone wants a line up jus say. it wont be a problem.

venum and blazing, while the R1 option was cheaper, the quality of the rotor is unquestionable. they are solid and i carefully scrutinized it for flaws.
remember with any aftermarket product, no matter brand, its all a CHANCE you take fellas. I felt comfortable in purchasing these rotors! All my runs are East/West and anytime i build up some speed i have to slow for a traffic light. i never get an opportunity to cross 170 and believe me with the oem rotors i wasnt taking that chance. It was truly a scary ride.

blazing, as venum said i did my homework. OEM brembo solids are NOT good check it out!! read some reviews and see, talk bout rusting and warping. slotted/drilled brembos were way out of my budget. and others seemed ridiculously priced to take a chance with. bear in mind that i looked at OEM spec rotors so that i wonr need to change the Caliper or braking setup. but rest assured im not going to be jamming on those brakes anytime soon. tiptronic ftw!

As for going back OEM. fras and I were looking into it and you looking at $2500TT for one side if im not mistaken. and from my trini and singaporian ppl, oem are going to warp again. machining them going to warp and take away from spec.

blazing, i hear your concern and thanks for looking out! I will observe and stay sharp. but buddy i can safely tell you now, that me and the neighbouring suspension parts felt more in danger with the OEM.

As for the ride so far, its great, comfortable, no squeaks, no slips. but im not putting them to the test. during the week im gonna pop off the wheels and take some 'update' pics
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:18 am
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idlemind

I await your results I was thinking abt selling and looking to purchase one ah those 08 from the firm or one of the turbo wagons but plans have chnaged as it will affect my budget

so I am keeping and looking to change engine next year maybe 1.8 or so nothing fancy the vented disc rotors would be a nice upgrade for it what I was also looking at was disc brakes for the rear was speaking to someone over the weekend and told me that he can get the rear set up but it will cost around $5,000.00 right now I considering i
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:43 am
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i know persons who used the R1 brand which in many circles considered an upgrade from the oem for daily use...
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ronsin1, if you changing from the GDI go EFI, dont waste ur time on going back 1.8 GDI (that is if you meant 1.8 GDI). The rotors are nice and to me it wasnt an upgrade, more like a needed swap. but its really an eyecatcher, i must say. the rear setup was never really an option i looked into. i owned an integra with rear discs before and i never found it to be any different from drums. what i can vouch for is if you go thru water or those rear discs get wet...expect skid/slip and a delayed stop. not a nice sight if someone pulls brakes on you.

$5k seems steep... pm teichou and fras about the conversion exp.

JUS4SHO, nice vouch
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:49 pm
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Idle,

good update, keep the pics coming and teh driving experience as well

ronsin1 buy my car !

rear disc brakes aren't such a great brake upgrade IMHO
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