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fras Chronic 2NR
Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1184 Location: Tobago My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Mivec
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| 20,000km unless u have an external tranny cooler |
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idlemind TriniTuner WHOoRE
Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1412 Location: Shifting with no clutching My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Touring Lancer
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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bnrampage, 20,000km is LAW, reconsider ur mech if thats the stuff he suggesting. BTW I jus wanted to confirm the model lancer you own...no biggie
Most of us have given up the rear disc idea
fras i have seen a CS wagon with rear discs but only on the turbo lancers/evo lancers. namely the yellow wagon with EVOLUTION VII on the back
T7performance, give me more info on that conversion coz a common problem with all CS's are warping rotors...no matter if you grind them they warp again...even the stock discs warping them. so i figure the only solution is to upgrade the rotors.
regards |
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venum 3NE2NR Diesel Boyz
Joined: 07 May 2004 Tech posts: 3833 Location: San Fernando My 2NRide: Mitsubishi L200 Animal
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| fras wrote: | | 20,000km unless u have an external tranny cooler |
external tranny oil cooler and I still change at 20,000km pronto
but you can extend the interval to 25,000km with the cooler
keeping the Lancer IMACULATE
selling next year |
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fras Chronic 2NR
Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1184 Location: Tobago My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Mivec
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| venum wrote: | keeping the Lancer IMACULATE
selling next year | And u talking about me I just wanna sell a year earlier... I may buy another tho original manual |
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T7performance Ricer
Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Tech posts: 23 Location: Southside My 2NRide: Lancer
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| idlemind wrote: | T7performance, give me more info on that conversion coz a common problem with all CS's are warping rotors...no matter if you grind them they warp again...even the stock discs warping them. so i figure the only solution is to upgrade the rotors.
regards |
Basically I checking two brands of rotors brembo and powerslot ..they have both the cross drilled and slotted versions. I'm waiting on a confirmation on fitting email before I get my hopes up though.
EDIT: Same size, bolt on type ... not "big brakes" |
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idlemind TriniTuner WHOoRE
Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1412 Location: Shifting with no clutching My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Touring Lancer
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| thanks, please update when you hear anything more |
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fras Chronic 2NR
Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1184 Location: Tobago My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Mivec
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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What size is our rotor disc?
Would the disc from the us lancer work? Cause I found rotors for thoes... same spacing 4*100! |
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idlemind TriniTuner WHOoRE
Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1412 Location: Shifting with no clutching My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Touring Lancer
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Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| fras wrote: | What size is our rotor disc?
Would the disc from the us lancer work? Cause I found rotors for thoes... same spacing 4*100! |
wont they warp the same? though atmospheric temperatures are different and it may not be a prominent issue in the US?
Singaporians agree the stock rotors warp..guess we should research some USDM forums and see |
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teichou 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Tech posts: 104 Location: here My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Lancer
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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i changed my drums on the CS to discs
i think the discs came from a cedia wagon and they fit perfectly didn't even have to camber over and i still retained my ABS
if you ain believe ask FRAS
and i did the install myself the only thing thing that needed minor adjustments was the hand brakes cable that attaches directly to the lever
and CK rear discs will work on a CS to the best of my knowledge 'cause i had the choice of either and i chose the one from the cedia wagon (it has pads for the rotor and shoes inside a drum for the e-brakes) |
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venum 3NE2NR Diesel Boyz
Joined: 07 May 2004 Tech posts: 3833 Location: San Fernando My 2NRide: Mitsubishi L200 Animal
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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^^^ wonderful news for the guys looking to do this conversion
I don't think that anyone should doubt you, cuz you haven't been know to BS around
link some install pics if you can
$$$ averages
FRAS - diesel dreams becoming irresistable - waking up cold sweating thinking bout L's
need to change my paradigm |
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T7performance Ricer
Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Tech posts: 23 Location: Southside My 2NRide: Lancer
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| teichou wrote: | i changed my drums on the CS to discs
i think the discs came from a cedia wagon and they fit perfectly didn't even have to camber over and i still retained my ABS
if you ain believe ask FRAS
and i did the install myself the only thing thing that needed minor adjustments was the hand brakes cable that attaches directly to the lever
and CK rear discs will work on a CS to the best of my knowledge 'cause i had the choice of either and i chose the one from the cedia wagon (it has pads for the rotor and shoes inside a drum for the e-brakes) |
Hows the handling while braking? wouldn't mind seeing a pic too lol
Alternatively,
If anyone other than me notices the dark spots on those gauges, can you suggest what type of bulb i need? also the "D" gear indicator light doesn't work anymore so i also need to replace that.
Also, how many of the "blue" bulbs would i need to replace ALL behind the gauges |
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idlemind TriniTuner WHOoRE
Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1412 Location: Shifting with no clutching My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Touring Lancer
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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ah ha, venum is the best man to suggest instrument panel issues
What i want to know is how your thingy goes up to 220
you calibrate that to actually reach 220? or is really only 180km u reaching? even the evo7s only go up to 180
jus asking eh pal |
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venum 3NE2NR Diesel Boyz
Joined: 07 May 2004 Tech posts: 3833 Location: San Fernando My 2NRide: Mitsubishi L200 Animal
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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For the love of CS3's
REAR OF IP
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Bulbs 1-4 are the main ones that light up the entire IP face
Bulb 5 is your odometer\trip meters
BACKING REMOVED
RIGHT SIDE
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MIDDLE
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LEFT SIDE
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What I cannot understand, is why, when held up to the light, the bulbs labeled NOTHING did not show any particular icon.
I believe the one under the Fog Lamp is the rear fog lamp
| idlemind wrote: | | ah ha, venum is the best man to suggest instrument panel issues |
such faith . . .
| idlemind wrote: | What i want to know is how your thingy goes up to 220
you calibrate that to actually reach 220? or is really only 180km u reaching? even the evo7s only go up to 180 |
Evo VII's do much more that 180km\h
SDM cars are calibrated higher than their JDM counterparts
JDM cars often have a speed cut at 180km\h, but can easily go past when removed
couple of 2nrs claim (believably) that they have gotten 200km\h + out of their CS3's
I personally have never pushed past 180 km\h on a test run, but she could have gone further
| idlemind wrote: | | jus asking eh pal |
here is definately the place to ask, Its why we are all here - to learn
T7performance as for your question about the bulb, that is a good question.
The bulbs contacts are wrapped onto the bulb holder in a very fine groove, such that when the bulb is placed in its position in the circuit board and locked into place, the wire bulb contact touches\makes contact with the circuit board's contact
to use a bulb here, you will have to gut one , such that it can fit in the bulb holder and wrap around in similar form
the hole for the bulb contact has a very fine bore, so you will need a bulb with a very fine contact
I bought some from Gopaul's Electronics when I needed to change on my CK Lancer. those were just bulbs with wire contacts, so I did not have to gut them. However, their colour went from Blue to Orange in 2 years, so I do not recommend them, although they still light.
The indicator (ABS, oil, SRC etc) bulbs are the same way.
be very careful when removing the IP, as Mitsu didn't make this very easy (a hell of a lot easier on the CK Lancers)
My suggestion:
drop steering as low as it goes, unscrew bezel (2 screws), remove bezel (firmly pulling foward), remove three screws that hold the IP in place, turn the IP downwards (so teh top faces you), unclip both dongles (top left and right) and gentle ease teh IP out from behind teh steering wheel.
the dongles do not have much excess so you need to un-clip them in the small space there is
you have to be very gentle
If you find that the bulb holders are difficult to remove, you can use a screwdriver, as they have a crossed slots on them
to remove the bulb contacts from the bulb holder (first remove teh bulb holder with bulb from teh IP) you can pry the contacts out with a very fin tipped flat-head screwdriver - a jewellers\electronics set is ideal
thaz it, ENJOY !!!
the next time allyuh coming dex or meet me anywhere, allyuh better walk with some Green Sands and LLB, cuz this write up take 2 hrs ! |
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T7performance Ricer
Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Tech posts: 23 Location: Southside My 2NRide: Lancer
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:31 am Post subject: |
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| idlemind wrote: | ah ha, venum is the best man to suggest instrument panel issues
What i want to know is how your thingy goes up to 220
you calibrate that to actually reach 220? or is really only 180km u reaching? even the evo7s only go up to 180
jus asking eh pal |
Well it's a SDM lancer and i've squeezed 200k out of it. Maybe if i had normal plugs instead of iridiums i would've gotten more but it certainly is possible.
Venum, like i don't have a choice but to disassemble this thing twice, i really didn't want to but i don't think 5 bulb alone lighting up the gauges ... because the bottom bright and on top is like 3 dark spots. Are your pics of an IP with white gauges? |
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idlemind TriniTuner WHOoRE
Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1412 Location: Shifting with no clutching My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Touring Lancer
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:31 am Post subject: |
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venum, you a boss....doh worry yuh LLB dun booked
Thanks man, good job |
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venum 3NE2NR Diesel Boyz
Joined: 07 May 2004 Tech posts: 3833 Location: San Fernando My 2NRide: Mitsubishi L200 Animal
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| T7performance wrote: |
Venum, like i don't have a choice but to disassemble this thing twice, i really didn't want to but i don't think 5 bulb alone lighting up the gauges ... because the bottom bright and on top is like 3 dark spots. Are your pics of an IP with white gauges? |
bulb 5 can't light much except for teh odometer
my IP is the normal charcoal coloured |
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idlemind TriniTuner WHOoRE
Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1412 Location: Shifting with no clutching My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Touring Lancer
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:47 am Post subject: |
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regarding the evo7 only going up to 180km/h
i was jus refering to the stock evo speedo |
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idlemind TriniTuner WHOoRE
Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1412 Location: Shifting with no clutching My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Touring Lancer
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Can anyone suggest a good performance front disc brake brand for the CS?
Buying tomorow need a response quickly
thanks |
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venum 3NE2NR Diesel Boyz
Joined: 07 May 2004 Tech posts: 3833 Location: San Fernando My 2NRide: Mitsubishi L200 Animal
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Hawk as suggested by W2J to me sometime ago
Rudman damaged some CK rotors wit EBC green stuff
good ole Daishin
Wagner |
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idlemind TriniTuner WHOoRE
Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1412 Location: Shifting with no clutching My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Touring Lancer
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| venum wrote: | Hawk as suggested by W2J to me sometime ago
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He stocks this at his shop??? |
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teichou 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Tech posts: 104 Location: here My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Lancer
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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does the manual and automatic 2002 cs3a use the same ECU or are there dual settings within one ECU that can be selected?
i was reading this thread and it started me thinking
http://www.zerotohundred.co...50116-my-bot-gen2-16.html |
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venum 3NE2NR Diesel Boyz
Joined: 07 May 2004 Tech posts: 3833 Location: San Fernando My 2NRide: Mitsubishi L200 Animal
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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might be two different ECU's
the ECu on teh auto will be factory mapped such that if prevents the engine from idling up fast (it does idle up slow) to keep it in time with the CVT
teh manual will have no reason to idle-up this slowly
if its dual setting, that will be nice |
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idlemind TriniTuner WHOoRE
Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1412 Location: Shifting with no clutching My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Touring Lancer
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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so CVT TipTronic?
dat go be different too??
i say we compare ECUs |
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teichou 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Tech posts: 104 Location: here My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Lancer
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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how and when
didn't some one on the forum have an ECU diagram?
and if the ECU different that means that some stuff missing from the auto to manual conversion list of items  |
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idlemind TriniTuner WHOoRE
Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1412 Location: Shifting with no clutching My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Touring Lancer
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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wouldnt it have a number somewhere?
Hold up...Pardon my ignorance...where is the ECU?
Under the Passenger kick panel? |
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teichou 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Tech posts: 104 Location: here My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Lancer
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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i have no idea
MISHI might know though

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idlemind TriniTuner WHOoRE
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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i ain getting my speedo and odo to work
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oh boy you need a wiring diagram
and some good advice...good luck
who did the conversion?
go back some pages i think a guy did the conversion by himself |
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teichou 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Tech posts: 104 Location: here My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Lancer
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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that was mishi and he did it in a CB3 lancer it might be slightly different
and i have a feeling that the sensors on the tranny different from those on the box |
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idlemind TriniTuner WHOoRE
Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 1412 Location: Shifting with no clutching My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Touring Lancer
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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teichou, you making me do the hard work
Not Mishi...go back to page 5
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I eventually put in a transmission from the CK2 model lancer and rewired it to work with the 4g15 computer
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u can give me a call at 721-2217....live in chaguanas and work in POS, so the car is usually in one of those two areas. My dad did the wiring...I had all the schematics.
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Its a tranny but worth a follow up imho |
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teichou 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Tech posts: 104 Location: here My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Lancer
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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ok
my bad
thanks the only person i remembered was Mishi
checking it out now |
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