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idlemind
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:47 am
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oh crap i forget to answer u dey turbo_beast369...sorry bout that
my CS5A came with the 4G93 GDI installed from factory.
this engine came with all CS5 sedans and wagons and some came turboed hence the 4G93T and 4G93 is stock from Singapore.

you mite not want to hear this but if you are thinking about upgrading from the 4G18 which i suspect you have, please do not go GDI. GDI is stressful and unpredictable. I am maintaining my engine because thats what I got and I have a complete 4G93 GDI put down home for parts.

so let me suggest your options if you thinking about converting:
theres the same 4G18 which is like gold to find
theres the 4G15 non GDI which came in the CK lancers and the basic CS wagon
theres the 4G92/4G93/4G93T from the CK lancers

The options from the CK are abundant and you will have to fabricate one mount and you will need complete harness, AC controls, ECUs, and other misc stuff

the cost for conversion complete engine, rewiring and labour could be as folows.
4G18 - $8k
4G15/92 - $10k-$15k
4G93T - $20-$25k
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:05 pm
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a 4G18 so hard to find boi?...that mean I have gold in meh bonnet then Wink
well as u say GDI is stressful then thats out ah d question...I want something with a lil more pep but must be a kinda bolt on conversion ...i dont want to have to alter the engine and tranny mounting brackets...what about the 4G94....the US CS Lancers come with those engines...wha u think?
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idlemind
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:14 pm
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parts would be the problem for the 4G94.
the 4G15 and 4G92 has alot of available mods to give you that pep but its not going to be a direct swap. I rule out US engines basically for availablility of parts.

the other suggestion would be to sell
and it have man here sell they good new CS and buy a CK
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:24 pm
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TURBOT, yeah boy, your seals bad. Has oil gotten onto the plugs (firing tip)?

If yes, check your gasket as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:30 pm
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nah well fleck that yes...i go leave that engine right there....i go just put rims and music for now yes.....later on i go sell it and buy an original turbo car NONE GDI of course lol...
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idlemind
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:31 pm
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yep thats what the owner of this thread did... Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:41 pm
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well apart from normal maintenance my next focus is mainly to put some bass in d trunk...was thinkin bout puttin rear disc brakes but doesnt make sense now becuz i not changin d engine...when d tyres on meh 14's wear down almost 2 d point of changing i go put some 16's....idlemind,boi yuh just save me from spendin money on something that "stressful and unpredictable"...I still want those rotors tho....when i ready to change disc pads again i go put dem yes......
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idlemind
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:46 pm
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yeah man no probs, music has been my elusive goal from day 1.
i just cant keep the money i set aside for some bass.
but i dont want anything big jus a lil 10" and keep some truck space.

pm me whenever you ready with the rotors
rear disks IMHO doesnt make much of a difference
but you can get them complete with abs for <$3k
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:17 pm
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I just really wanted disc brakes mainly becuz it looks sweet......and well to get a kinda "wait nah 4 wheel disc brakes on a local CS...whey boi!!" effect from ppl...its sad i know lol....i rather spend that money on music yes..... have enuf stoppin power with my stock engine....them rear brake shoes does last rel long boi....it on d car since d firm and it still have life... 6 years now....i doubt rear disc pads go last so long.....that 3K go make meh smile when d bass hit lol....fleck trunk space I goin with a Rockford 15" double coil!!! good ting is when i want more bass its at my fingertips....
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TURBOT
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:15 pm
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turbo beast make sure and go front port with the bass eh ....... i have a big box with a single twelve....all my back bumper does rattle and the light on the left side shake loose already lol.......and yeah 6000k Very Happy

guys so its the plug seals??
any one ever change those ..... do i just take off the cover and i will be able to change them??? i really wanna know cuz i will change it tomorrow if thats the case....
i got the new plugs they will be going in tomorrow one time........ got them for 58$ at maturas



lord QG, yuh tryin to scare me now gasket as in head gasket?
only 1 plug had some oil on the threading and i think it is from oil leaking from the top of the chamber Confused and oil got on the threads when i was taking it out....... the other 3 plugs was bone dry....
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:22 pm
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yeah man TURBOT, them bass ports and speaker go be facing d front ah d vehicle.....I wanna put 6000K later on when I buy the black backround headlights...thas of course after I get my trunk filled with BASS lol.....
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:01 pm
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idlemind wrote:
parts would be the problem for the 4G94.


4G94 non-GDI came local in the EA Galants

4G15 SOHC EFI came in the CS2V (Lancer wagon) & CS2A non-GDI Lancer - direct bolt up

Expect difference with harness, ECU
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fras
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:43 pm
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idlemind It was the easy way out Mr. Green

turbo_beast369 what about 4G18T?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:01 pm
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fras wrote:
idlemind It was the easy way out Mr. Green

turbo_beast369 what about 4G18T?


you mean runnin a turbo on d 4G18? i dont like d idea of runnin boost on a high compression engine...i know ppl do it and get away but how long will it last...i mean if i get a turbo kit with forged low compression pistons then yeah no probs.....
will the non GDI 4G94 work in d CS3 nicely and will u get parts?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:42 pm
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it get lix but something abt that front grill and a FMIC below it ........it lighting a flame inside
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:19 pm
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4G15/4G18 Turbo Kits from RPW
http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/...=com_virtuemart&Itemid=31
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:56 pm
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And theres another way which I was tryin to get you guys to experiment with and thats shifting into Ds. In this way you're not relying on the ecu to detect the acceration pattern.


idlemind, the problem with this was that the car moves slower when in Ds, ill do some experimenting though.

As for the spark plugs im using the Bosch ones and yes its GDI and i dunno if its MMC spec but it did give the car a little pep.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:02 am
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And theres another way which I was tryin to get you guys to experiment with and thats shifting into Ds. In this way you're not relying on the ecu to detect the acceration pattern.


idlemind, the problem with this was that the car moves slower when in Ds, ill do some experimenting though.

As for the spark plugs im using the Bosch ones and yes its GDI and i dunno if its MMC spec but it did give the car a little pep.



I launch faster by starting in L gear then wen revs climb to 5500rpm, shift to Ds, then if I dangerous D mode which makes the car feel like its doing 140 effortlessly Twisted Evil



turbo_beast369 consider supercharging instead, seen a kit for the Mivec version of the CS5...should bolt up the same, Think it was a greddy unit..this way you would have smooth but fast accel and not the jerky accel from the turbo when going in and out of boost...this way ya CVT will last longer....just don't floor it from standstill...IMHO
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:26 pm
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nes123, if I boosting my engine be it turbocharging or supercharging I takin out dat CVT Tranny and rest it down in a corner home and cover it safely.....trust me CVT or not I go want to floor it from standstill especially when "spirits" in meh head (allyuh fellaz know what I talkin bout).....then try to locate a LSD box and slap it in one time.....whaz d link for dat greddy supercharger unit boi nes123,
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:36 pm
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turbo_beast369, thats exactly why i dont like my CVT. Them spirts does just be irrestible sometimes.

My next car wouldnt be CVT or anything like that, thats for sure.
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