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TURBOT
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:34 pm
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ok so today was a little stress again ....... i checked the plugs they were dirty so i cleaned them and put them back in but i gonna change them this week ......they look like they need to be changed.......glad to see i had in the NGK BKR5E-11

when i pulled off the plug wires i realised that there was a little oil leaking into the plug chamber.......Confused as venum was mentioning .....

so far the tappet pan gasket hasnt leaked any more oil onto the block so it looks like i fixed that problem. 3 of my plugs were dry and well one had some oil on it i dunno if it is from taking it out ....

the oil in the chambers looks like it is only at THE TOP of the chamber ......when i looked down into it it looks dry, but u see oil setteling right at the top.....the one plug that was wet its chamber had a bit more oil in it, i aint talkin about no pool of oil eh jus a lil bit ...... i vexx i didnt take pictures....
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idlemind
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:58 pm
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turbo_beast369, although its not the eco-friendly option, most ppl remove their cat onverters and have noticed improved performance. usually this is one of the first things u do to any roro vehicle. but again u gonna get a nicer pull at a cheap cost but the gas consumption gonna decrease but not by much.

TURBOT, i hope u got a cloth down in that chamber and cleaned it up a bit. oil in the plugs means ur plug seals need changing, and if you're going to do that one u mite as well change all. get it in while ur fixing that leaky tappet cover too.
i dont know how its lined up with the 4g18 but my plug seals are practically between the head and block so prepare to go let a mech do it. my advise would be to buy the seals before hand.

try and do this before u change plugs coz new plugs gonna foul up quick once the oil is leaking. and use the recommended plugs in page 1. dont try no fancy thing.

how the idle going?
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:07 pm
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oh yeah ....... WRT the idle i dont think it happened for the day.....so thats really good .....kepping my fingers crossed that it doesnt happen again but i keeping a look out for it...........she idleing like a champ right now ......got a good highway run today too....

i will get a pic in the morning.....



and abt ur response to turbo beast did u say that gas consumption will DECREASE?????
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idlemind
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:22 pm
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well what i mean is u basically removing the restriction on your exhaust.
causing an improved flow of emissions from the combustion process.

with this in place, the demand on air and fuel will increase to feed this emission exit and what may seem as an increase in performace is actually a side effect of getting more air and fuel into combustion because there is a faster way to get rid of emissions.

simply put u going to be using more gas on kick downs and at other 'spirited driving' times
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:12 am
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idlemind, why do u take off the cat on a RORO vehicle...does it have any more emissions control compared to a local vehicle....I would like to get a lil more power becuz I drive at normal speed most of the times and I find that the CVT is a bit sluggish whenever I have to speed up or overtake...so I find myself having to kick down to get what I want....sometimes d car does pull sweet....sometimes...when I feel like it I drive "spirited".....and also there is a leak on my exhaust somewhere in the back so when I repair that leak I am thinking of taking it out.....in essence I want a smooth flow of power wit less pedal play...
will NGK Iridium Plugs (BKR5EIX-11) make a difference in performance and reliability...I know they may last longer than stock plugs not so?...i know this topic was probly covered b4 but don't have the time to look thru the entire CS forum.....

TURBOT,when you get the plug seals let me know where u bought it and how much it cost please....
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idlemind
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:36 pm
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The cat is removed on roro vehicles because when roro started coming out years ago the local cars did not have it and to this day its not law in trinidad and tobago. So in the car dealer's mind it useless and they advise you to remove it you gain extra pep.

You are right, the CVT is sluggish when you want to overtake or speed up because its simply different to conventional automatic trannies. The older trannies shift into a lower gear with the slightest depression on the throttle. Now dont get it wrong eh, CVT trannies do this too but at a gradual level. And you have to learn to manipulate the CVT to get what you want.

Lets say you driving at a constant level and you suddenly want to overtake...there are two behavior patterns the CVT will adopt next.
1. You will get a kick if you floor the throttle while the throttle is already semi depressed.
2. You will not get any kick if you floor the throttle immediately after you ease off the throttle or tip on brake.

And theres another way which I was tryin to get you guys to experiment with and thats shifting into Ds. In this way you're not relying on the ecu to detect the acceration pattern.

Now that leak that you have in the exhaust will tinker with the performance you get. I suggest you patch that first and then notice the changes.

I cant advise you on plugs for the 4G18. It is in my opinion to use the ones noted on Page 1 because they have all been tried and tested by tuners. GDI on the other hand must use the only plug specified by MMC because the car is already tuned for maximum performance and efficiency out of factory.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:03 pm
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yeah I will monitor the changes....right now I get poor gas mileage and most times I dont use A/C......boi sometimes that CVT does pull like if u have a small turbo yes....but sadly you dont get it all the time....

btw i think i sent u a pm but somehow i not seein it in my outbox..very odd...
i wanted to know where u got ur cross drilled and slotted rotors from....at high speed when I mash good brakes it vibrates...my alignment and tyes are good....at low speed its perfect....i machined my rotors already but i feel it slightly warped....i know its a common problems with these cars....I dont really want to put back OEM...those rotors u have looks very good.....
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:11 pm
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nah my inbox empty is it in your sentbox?

i bought my rotors online and brought it in myself from R1Concepts.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:54 pm
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i remember typin it but probly it didnt go thru or i clicked the wrong button lol....I also wanted to know how was the install to a 4G93 GDI engine....if u encountered problems.....I am thinking of later on installing a 4G93T so I wanna know the do's and the dont's

btw those rotors rel reasonable...how do they perform and is it good quality...the reason i ask is becuz I see rotors on amazon.com and ebay for like $200+ US so i was jus wondering
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:12 pm
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Click for full-size.

k so this is the baby .......night time and cam phone = crappy pic
Click for full-size.

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so u can see the oil to the top of the plug wire and the oil u see on the tappet cover is only to the top ..... is it my plug seals that need to be changed? and can i change them myself?

ohh how much u pay for shipping on the rotors to trini?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 7:51 am
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TURBOT,thas 6000K HID's u have there or wha?
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original_lollybob
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:40 am
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idlemind wrote:
nah my inbox empty is it in your sentbox?

i bought my rotors online and brought it in myself from R1Concepts.


quick question on that... they shipped directly to u or u came thru skybox or similar?

did shipping duty and VAT kill you?

i lookin to get some new rotors and stainless steel brake lines for d galant nah
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:10 am
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TURBOT, that oil reach real far bro. Usually you only get oil on the tips of the plug and up to where its sealed off from the coil pack. The bottom of the coil pack usually gets a lil bit too, but never have I seen oil to the top of the coil pack.

My first bet is the plug seals but u may have to check the rest of the head seeing that you admit to having a leaky tappet cover. Oil in the Plugs and the Coil Pack gonna give a lil miss and rough idle.

turbo_beast369, TURBOT and original_lollybob, the rotors i went with was the last option, I think its $82US or so now. Back when I bought them over a year now, they were $50US. I shipped it to my padna and then fedex it down coz it was working out cheaper than skybox coz my bro working fedex. My landed cost was $1500 so now I'll say cater for about $2000 landed.

And yes i got a lil raping from duty and vat Embarassed

The good thing about those rotors is they come both 4x100 and 4x114 universal, so when if u getting rid of the car u can walk with the rotor.

let me kno if u fellas interested, mite be able to work with half down and a two weeks eta
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:16 am
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arite thanks idlemind ... i was lookin at some parts from importrp.com nah.. yuh ever order from there?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:24 am
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shouldnt be different once they in the US.
and I have the skybox and fedex as shipping options.
and all purchases are made with a US CC card.

send me the link for the parts and i'll get you an estimate of it landed
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:04 am
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sent u a pm
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:14 am
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:27 am
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I also have the R1Concepts Rotors... 1yr+
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:32 am
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turbo_beast369 wrote:
i remember typin it but probly it didnt go thru or i clicked the wrong button lol....I also wanted to know how was the install to a 4G93 GDI engine....if u encountered problems.....I am thinking of later on installing a 4G93T so I wanna know the do's and the dont's



what are your views....


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:34 am
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me gonna check that site now Mr. Green
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