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fras Chronic 2NR
Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 863 Location: Tobago My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Mivec
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| JUS4SHO wrote: | | i want to try and route my piping down by the fog light opening i will check it this weekend and let allyuh know |
Yeah da would b close... Mayb a 2.5 pipe
What about a heat shield Venum
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venum punchin NOS
Joined: 07 May 2004 Tech posts: 2898 Location: San Fernando My 2NRide: Mitsubishi L200 Animal
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| frass wrote: |
What about a heat shield Venum |
I toyed with the idea, even with the one I am going to buid for my CK
but I find that the heat shield restricts the air flow to the filter
at least will the heat shields that i have seen
unless you can insulate the filter such that all incoming air flows directly onto teh filter and no engine heat gets to it
but thaz too much stress for such minimal gain |
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fras Chronic 2NR
Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 863 Location: Tobago My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Mivec
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Saw this on cardomain
Injen CAI
I also searched the injen site but they dont have pics for me to confirm.
Venum u got through with d cvt tranny  |
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fras Chronic 2NR
Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 863 Location: Tobago My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Mivec
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Also there is a small tube (about quater inch) that runs from the intake to the engine (outline in white), what the purpose of this? Does it have something to do with vibration If so is this needed
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KiD 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Tech posts: 200 Location: north, before d lighthouse My 2NRide: Subaru Forester
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| i believe that sprays a mist of gasolene the mixes with the air before it gets to the the cylinders but im not sure if that is correct |
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venum punchin NOS
Joined: 07 May 2004 Tech posts: 2898 Location: San Fernando My 2NRide: Mitsubishi L200 Animal
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Nah KiD thaz for blow by oil
frass, it is really not needed
you can place a small 2.5" filter to block it off
btw what engine is that in the pic ?
it isn't a CS3A
it has a MAF sensor on it
it's not GDI |
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KiD 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Tech posts: 200 Location: north, before d lighthouse My 2NRide: Subaru Forester
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| well i have the gdi engine and when i disconnected it and tried to start the engine would tumble but not start |
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fras Chronic 2NR
Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 863 Location: Tobago My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Mivec
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| venum wrote: | | Nah KiD thaz for blow by oil |
Blow by Oil
Venum its a 2002 OZrally... not sure what engine. |
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venum punchin NOS
Joined: 07 May 2004 Tech posts: 2898 Location: San Fernando My 2NRide: Mitsubishi L200 Animal
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| frass wrote: | | venum wrote: | | Nah KiD thaz for blow by oil |
Blow by Oil
Venum its a 2002 OZrally... not sure what engine. |
I serious
if you check teh hose it has oil that gets blown off the top to teh tappet cover
I believe that it is really for air that is trapped at the top of the tappet pan
this air is routed to the intake
if it is a OZ rally, then it may be a 4G93 SOHC non-GDI |
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venum punchin NOS
Joined: 07 May 2004 Tech posts: 2898 Location: San Fernando My 2NRide: Mitsubishi L200 Animal
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.amazon.com/AEM-C...9233?ie=UTF8&s=automotive
http://www.amazon.com/AEM-2...9233?ie=UTF8&s=automotive
tell me what allyuh think
I believe that this is for the USDM Lancers; ES LS and OZ
It may work on our SDM too, just replace the section with the MAF sensor with a straight-through piece of piping
http://www.aempower.com/ViewProduct.aspx?ProductID=171
Part # 21-434C \R\P\B
it locates teh filter under the car behind the left fog light.
there are installation instructions too
This is taken from the instruction PDF. what i am interested in is the route that they pass the pipe. Similar to the pic FRASS posted
look at where they pass the "lower pipe"
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JUS4SHO can you confirm whether the pipe can be routed there in the SDM with 4G18?
Marketed as providing a max gain of 8.9 HP and 13.3 ft-lb of torque @ 3500 rpm on the OZ, which is a 2.0L engine, not sure if it is also a CVT tranny.
I will remove my stock airbox on Sunday to check this option.
the Bypass valve is also optional
This link provides a good idea on the difference between the JDM and teh USDM models - apparently a lot more than I had thought initially
apparently the USDM has a 4G94 non-GDI motor from initial research. So I stand corrected about the engine in Frass' post - it's a 4G94
research to still confirm teh tranny was CVT or mechanical
http://www.mitsubishi-forums.com/t16602-engine-swap.htm |
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fras Chronic 2NR
Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 863 Location: Tobago My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Mivec
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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hmm... If I have nothing to do tomorrow i'll take out my air box and see
But the space below is so limited due to the size of the tranny
I think the best bet is remove the second half of the air box (the half going back to the TB) and run a short ram to that, leaving the first half of the airbox (used as a heat shield). I was also looking at the scoop from the evo7 which is much bigger than the CS3A 
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venum punchin NOS
Joined: 07 May 2004 Tech posts: 2898 Location: San Fernando My 2NRide: Mitsubishi L200 Animal
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| frass wrote: | | I think the best bet is remove the second half of the air box (the half going back to the TB) and run a short ram to that |
this is the idea that I have in my diagram |
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JUS4SHO 3NE 2NR Moderator
Joined: 22 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 8865 Location: N/A My 2NRide: LANCER
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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off topic but anybody know the engine mount part #'s or the front cradle part #'s
if text your # to 717-1069 and i will call u back |
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Marct 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Tech posts: 199 Location: running up & down d hi way My 2NRide:
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| ^^^share the info i need to get the whole cradle arm |
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KiD 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Tech posts: 200 Location: north, before d lighthouse My 2NRide: Subaru Forester
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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whole cradle arm? what happened? i bent mine but got it straightened. Anyway heres a link to a lancer mod site and parts for sale. http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/lancer.htm when you get there you can check out the 3 sections below: drive train,suspension and dress up.
heres a pic from the dress up section with something im sure alot of lancer owners would would love to have.
Evo Vii Tail lights made for the regular lancer
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venum punchin NOS
Joined: 07 May 2004 Tech posts: 2898 Location: San Fernando My 2NRide: Mitsubishi L200 Animal
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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most of the sites that sell cold air intakes do so for the OZ manual only
the gearbox would most likely allow for more room to route the pipe as done in my post above
that CVT tranny may not allow for such
anyone who took of their gearbox can confirm?
also I need a owners manual, can anyone loan one so that I can copy it? |
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fras Chronic 2NR
Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 863 Location: Tobago My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Mivec
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Anyone has any info on the fuel system on the 4G18 engine
Does it have a factory regulator, a returnless fuel system or a return-type fuel system
And I still looking for dem 02 fogs Like i'll have to fit ah 03/04 fogs  |
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venum punchin NOS
Joined: 07 May 2004 Tech posts: 2898 Location: San Fernando My 2NRide: Mitsubishi L200 Animal
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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frass,
That site is nice, but a lot of stuff is for LHD models |
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fras Chronic 2NR
Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Tech posts: 863 Location: Tobago My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Mivec
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Our 4G18 has a return-type fuel system what ever that means
Ok so I think i'm ready for some fuel work... RPW suggested I go with a fuel pressure regulator! But i was thinking about gettin a fuel controller (SAFC/VAFC). What are main defferences between a fuel regulator and fuel controller and which would be better for this engine  |
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venum punchin NOS
Joined: 07 May 2004 Tech posts: 2898 Location: San Fernando My 2NRide: Mitsubishi L200 Animal
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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^^^^
remember what I told you some time ago
Fuel doesn't make power - air does
more air in the cylinder = more power
so if you are planning to implement better fuel delivery, which is not a bad option, then you must match that increased fuel with the right amount of air
otherwise you may just be buying a lot of gas and not really maximizing your potential
improved fuel delivery combined with better breatheability will ultimately make a better driving experience. |
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