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fras
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:06 am
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JUS4SHO wrote:
i want to try and route my piping down by the fog light opening i will check it this weekend and let allyuh know

Yeah da would b close... Mayb a 2.5 pipe Question

What about a heat shield Venum Question
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:56 pm
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frass wrote:

What about a heat shield Venum Question


I toyed with the idea, even with the one I am going to buid for my CK

but I find that the heat shield restricts the air flow to the filter

at least will the heat shields that i have seen

unless you can insulate the filter such that all incoming air flows directly onto teh filter and no engine heat gets to it

but thaz too much stress for such minimal gain
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:00 am
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Saw this on cardomain

Injen CAI
I also searched the injen site but they dont have pics for me to confirm.

Venum u got through with d cvt tranny Question
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:38 am
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Also there is a small tube (about quater inch) that runs from the intake to the engine (outline in white), what the purpose of this? Does it have something to do with vibration Question If so is this needed Question

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:50 pm
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i believe that sprays a mist of gasolene the mixes with the air before it gets to the the cylinders but im not sure if that is correct
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:51 pm
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Nah KiD thaz for blow by oil

frass, it is really not needed

you can place a small 2.5" filter to block it off

btw what engine is that in the pic ?

it isn't a CS3A

it has a MAF sensor on it

it's not GDI
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:58 pm
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well i have the gdi engine and when i disconnected it and tried to start the engine would tumble but not start
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:26 pm
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venum wrote:
Nah KiD thaz for blow by oil

Blow by Oil Confused

Venum its a 2002 OZrally... not sure what engine.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:11 pm
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frass wrote:
venum wrote:
Nah KiD thaz for blow by oil

Blow by Oil Confused

Venum its a 2002 OZrally... not sure what engine.


I serious

if you check teh hose it has oil that gets blown off the top to teh tappet cover

I believe that it is really for air that is trapped at the top of the tappet pan

this air is routed to the intake

if it is a OZ rally, then it may be a 4G93 SOHC non-GDI
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:16 pm
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http://www.amazon.com/AEM-C...9233?ie=UTF8&s=automotive

http://www.amazon.com/AEM-2...9233?ie=UTF8&s=automotive

tell me what allyuh think

I believe that this is for the USDM Lancers; ES LS and OZ

It may work on our SDM too, just replace the section with the MAF sensor with a straight-through piece of piping

http://www.aempower.com/ViewProduct.aspx?ProductID=171

Part # 21-434C \R\P\B

it locates teh filter under the car behind the left fog light.

there are installation instructions too

This is taken from the instruction PDF. what i am interested in is the route that they pass the pipe. Similar to the pic FRASS posted

look at where they pass the "lower pipe"

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JUS4SHO can you confirm whether the pipe can be routed there in the SDM with 4G18?

Marketed as providing a max gain of 8.9 HP and 13.3 ft-lb of torque @ 3500 rpm on the OZ, which is a 2.0L engine, not sure if it is also a CVT tranny.

I will remove my stock airbox on Sunday to check this option.

the Bypass valve is also optional

This link provides a good idea on the difference between the JDM and teh USDM models - apparently a lot more than I had thought initially

apparently the USDM has a 4G94 non-GDI motor from initial research. So I stand corrected about the engine in Frass' post - it's a 4G94

research to still confirm teh tranny was CVT or mechanical

http://www.mitsubishi-forums.com/t16602-engine-swap.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:52 pm
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hmm... If I have nothing to do tomorrow i'll take out my air box and see
But the space below is so limited due to the size of the tranny Exclamation

I think the best bet is remove the second half of the air box (the half going back to the TB) and run a short ram to that, leaving the first half of the airbox (used as a heat shield). I was also looking at the scoop from the evo7 which is much bigger than the CS3A Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:57 pm
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frass wrote:
I think the best bet is remove the second half of the air box (the half going back to the TB) and run a short ram to that


this is the idea that I have in my diagram
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:57 pm
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off topic but anybody know the engine mount part #'s or the front cradle part #'s

if text your # to 717-1069 and i will call u back
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:15 pm
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^^^share the info i need to get the whole cradle arm
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:43 pm
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whole cradle arm? what happened? i bent mine but got it straightened. Anyway heres a link to a lancer mod site and parts for sale. http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/lancer.htm when you get there you can check out the 3 sections below: drive train,suspension and dress up.

heres a pic from the dress up section with something im sure alot of lancer owners would would love to have.

Evo Vii Tail lights made for the regular lancer

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:42 pm
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most of the sites that sell cold air intakes do so for the OZ manual only

the gearbox would most likely allow for more room to route the pipe as done in my post above

that CVT tranny may not allow for such

anyone who took of their gearbox can confirm?

also I need a owners manual, can anyone loan one so that I can copy it?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:17 am
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Anyone has any info on the fuel system on the 4G18 engine Question
Does it have a factory regulator, a returnless fuel system or a return-type fuel system Question

And I still looking for dem 02 fogs Exclamation Like i'll have to fit ah 03/04 fogs Question
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:03 pm
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frass,

That site is nice, but a lot of stuff is for LHD models
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:42 am
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Our 4G18 has a return-type fuel system what ever that means

Ok so I think i'm ready for some fuel work... RPW suggested I go with a fuel pressure regulator! But i was thinking about gettin a fuel controller (SAFC/VAFC). What are main defferences between a fuel regulator and fuel controller and which would be better for this engine Question
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:13 pm
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^^^^

remember what I told you some time ago

Fuel doesn't make power - air does

more air in the cylinder = more power


so if you are planning to implement better fuel delivery, which is not a bad option, then you must match that increased fuel with the right amount of air

otherwise you may just be buying a lot of gas and not really maximizing your potential

improved fuel delivery combined with better breatheability will ultimately make a better driving experience.
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