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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:20 am
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frass wrote:
JUS4SHO wrote:

as with body parts expensive just like any newer model car, bobby's in d bamboo have body parts cheap, also kawal singh in chaguanas supplys diamond motors with a lot of mechanical parts (which you pay big $$$ for and its not oem)


You have a number for Singh Question


and bella too...it kinda hard to find cedia parts Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:38 pm
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Bella's # is 682-7179
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:04 am
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Was wondering if I remove my airbox and run a short ram to just behind the battery, would this be better than the K&N drop in Question
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:50 pm
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dont think so the engine bay doesnt have enough cool air coming in and that is right over the trannie, which gets VERY HOT. Would not recommend.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:22 pm
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dont think so the engine bay doesnt have enough cool air coming in and that is right over the trannie, which gets VERY HOT. Would not recommend.


this is true,

but if you introduce a source of fresh air for the filter then it will work <--- this is the tricky part.

unlike the Ck models that facilitate the routing of flexible piping from a space behind the front bumper, through the left fender and then right up on the filter, the CS model isn't as easy.

I was investigating a similar setup for my free-flow build today and discovered this challenge.

this is my proposed design:

Venum Designs 4G18 SOHC CS Lancer Free-Flow Intake:

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:18 am
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Well hurry nah venum let me see what u look like and how it runnin
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:46 pm
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^^^ that not happening until the warranty expire on my car

prob end of March

I will be working on the design of the support of the Ram till then
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:02 am
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wayie with all ah all yuh going by bella is stress when i need parts Mr. Green Mr. Green lol iz a cool scene ...... venum 1 question the ram is design to take in more air than stock right ! then my guess is it will be limited or if i may restricted by that stock inlet, hence u will still be pulling in a lot of hot air from around where the stock box was ?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:39 pm
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^^^^thats d problem i had.The felt like it was gasping. stock air vent was re used with a heat shield built around the filter, this helped a lot.

I doubt Venum's design would get lots of fresh air more "heavy" hot air will be sucked in
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:04 pm
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Venum Designs 4G18 SOHC CS Lancer Free-Flow Intake design flaw #1 - hot intake air at low speeds and stationary position

The concept of a free-flow intake is to provide a larger supply (volume) of cold, fresh (temperature) outside (location) air to the TB than the stock setup.

by leaving the stock inlet\scoop a direct source of outside, cold air will be blasted onto the filter when the car is in motion, thus allowing the car to breathe better when in motion

However, when the car is idling, it will be breathing some hot air, as with any intake that has the filter located inside the engine bay (SRI's)

in this case the air will be heated by the CVT trannie, which generates a lot of heat.

Thinking bout upgrading the oil cooler on this trannie . . . but that is another post.

An effective way to eliminate this problem is to place the filter where it is constantly breathing fresh,cold air - which is almost outside the car

with the CS routing the necessary ram pipes is not easy, unlike the CK (which is incredibly easy)

if there is a way to insulate the filter from heat, then it may be more effective.

extractor fan around the fiter Question
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:08 pm
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Another thing venum I dont know if u ever checked the grill...
But the grill has a block where the scoop is located (to prevent water from gettin into the intake) If my cam was working i would post a pic. So if the scoop could be altered in some way or the blockage from the grill removed u'll get more cool air Exclamation

Also venum where yall get that avatar Question
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:50 pm
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^^^ Check Mishi for teh Avatar - allyuh Tobago men have no love amongst allyu or what

my grill is the mesh grill

I am playing with a possibility to route air from this large "vent" to the filter
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:43 am
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I think that this thread should be renamed the GDI thread just my two cents
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:54 am
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Ok guys hear what; I want to fush the radiator and change the coolant what type of coolant is the best to use.....
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:04 am
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ronsin1 wrote:
I think that this thread should be renamed the GDI thread just my two cents

Why Question Mostly 4G18 dicussed here Exclamation

Ok Venum gone rule with ur mesh grill. I didnt know yall got it from mishi Exclamation
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:20 pm
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Ok Venum Twisted Evil doh study the engine
Click for full-size.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:47 pm
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^^^ looks ricey

that is pretty much the same idea that I have in my diagram

the scoop is bigger than the stock though

and it's a GDI engine - doesn't matter
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:33 pm
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i want to try and route my piping down by the fog light opening i will check it this weekend and let allyuh know
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:39 pm
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^^^ tight fit
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:15 pm
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Production 2000 -
Body style 4-door sedan
4-door wagon
Platform FF layout

Engine
4G13 1.3L SOHC
4G18 1.6L SOHC
4G94 2.0L SOHC I4
4G63 2.0L DOHC I4
4G69 2.4L SOHC MIVEC I4

Transmission 4-speed Automatic
4-speed Semi-Auto
5-speed Manual
invecs III CVT

Wheelbase 102.4 in.
Length 180.5 in. (sedan)
181.3 in. (Sportback)
Width 66.8 in.
Height 54.9 in. (sedan)
56.1 in. (Sportback)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Lancer


the USDM lancers come with higher displacement engines. would these be a direct engine swap in a JDM or SDM cedia bolt for bolt? Would it be able to work?
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