CS Lancer!

fras · Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:38 pm Post subject:

Bella's # is 682-7179

fras · Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:04 am Post subject:

Was wondering if I remove my airbox and run a short ram to just behind the battery, would this be better than the K&N drop in Question

Marct · Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject:

dont think so the engine bay doesnt have enough cool air coming in and that is right over the trannie, which gets VERY HOT. Would not recommend.

venum · Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject:

fras · Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:18 am Post subject:

Well hurry nah venum let me see what u look like and how it runnin

venum · Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:46 pm Post subject:

^^^ that not happening until the warranty expire on my car

prob end of March

I will be working on the design of the support of the Ram till then

JUS4SHO · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:02 am Post subject:

wayie with all ah all yuh going by bella is stress when i need parts Mr. Green

lol iz a cool scene ...... venum 1 question the ram is design to take in more air than stock right ! then my guess is it will be limited or if i may restricted by that stock inlet, hence u will still be pulling in a lot of hot air from around where the stock box was ?

Marct · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:39 pm Post subject:

^^^^thats d problem i had.The felt like it was gasping. stock air vent was re used with a heat shield built around the filter, this helped a lot.

I doubt Venum's design would get lots of fresh air more "heavy" hot air will be sucked in

venum · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject:

Venum Designs 4G18 SOHC CS Lancer Free-Flow Intake design flaw #1 - hot intake air at low speeds and stationary position

The concept of a free-flow intake is to provide a larger supply (volume) of cold, fresh (temperature) outside (location) air to the TB than the stock setup.

by leaving the stock inlet\scoop a direct source of outside, cold air will be blasted onto the filter when the car is in motion, thus allowing the car to breathe better when in motion

However, when the car is idling, it will be breathing some hot air, as with any intake that has the filter located inside the engine bay (SRI's)

in this case the air will be heated by the CVT trannie, which generates a lot of heat.

Thinking bout upgrading the oil cooler on this trannie . . . but that is another post.

An effective way to eliminate this problem is to place the filter where it is constantly breathing fresh,cold air - which is almost outside the car

with the CS routing the necessary ram pipes is not easy, unlike the CK (which is incredibly easy)

if there is a way to insulate the filter from heat, then it may be more effective.

extractor fan around the fiter Question

fras · Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:08 pm Post subject:

Another thing venum I dont know if u ever checked the grill...
But the grill has a block where the scoop is located (to prevent water from gettin into the intake) If my cam was working i would post a pic. So if the scoop could be altered in some way or the blockage from the grill removed u'll get more cool air Exclamation

Also venum where yall get that avatar Question

venum · Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject:

^^^ Check Mishi for teh Avatar - allyuh Tobago men have no love amongst allyu or what

my grill is the mesh grill

I am playing with a possibility to route air from this large "vent" to the filter

ronsin1 · Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:43 am Post subject:

I think that this thread should be renamed the GDI thread just my two cents

ronsin1 · Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:54 am Post subject:

Ok guys hear what; I want to fush the radiator and change the coolant what type of coolant is the best to use.....

fras · Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:04 am Post subject:

fras · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject:

Ok Venum

doh study the engine

Click for full-size.

venum · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:47 pm Post subject:

^^^ looks ricey

that is pretty much the same idea that I have in my diagram

the scoop is bigger than the stock though

and it's a GDI engine - doesn't matter

JUS4SHO · Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject:

i want to try and route my piping down by the fog light opening i will check it this weekend and let allyuh know

venum · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject:

^^^ tight fit

KiD · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject:

Production 2000 -
Body style 4-door sedan
4-door wagon
Platform FF layout

Engine
4G13 1.3L SOHC
4G18 1.6L SOHC
4G94 2.0L SOHC I4
4G63 2.0L DOHC I4
4G69 2.4L SOHC MIVEC I4

Transmission 4-speed Automatic
4-speed Semi-Auto
5-speed Manual
invecs III CVT

Wheelbase 102.4 in.
Length 180.5 in. (sedan)
181.3 in. (Sportback)
Width 66.8 in.
Height 54.9 in. (sedan)
56.1 in. (Sportback)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Lancer

the USDM lancers come with higher displacement engines. would these be a direct engine swap in a JDM or SDM cedia bolt for bolt? Would it be able to work?

fras · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:06 am Post subject:

venum · Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:56 pm Post subject:

fras · Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:00 am Post subject:

Saw this on cardomain

Injen CAI
I also searched the injen site but they dont have pics for me to confirm.

Venum u got through with d cvt tranny Question

fras · Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:38 am Post subject:

Also there is a small tube (about quater inch) that runs from the intake to the engine (outline in white), what the purpose of this? Does it have something to do with vibration Question

If so is this needed Question

KiD · Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject:

i believe that sprays a mist of gasolene the mixes with the air before it gets to the the cylinders but im not sure if that is correct

venum · Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:51 pm Post subject:

Nah KiD thaz for blow by oil

frass, it is really not needed

you can place a small 2.5" filter to block it off

btw what engine is that in the pic ?

it isn't a CS3A

it has a MAF sensor on it

it's not GDI

KiD · Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject:

well i have the gdi engine and when i disconnected it and tried to start the engine would tumble but not start

fras · Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject:

venum · Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:11 pm Post subject:

venum · Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:16 pm Post subject:

http://www.amazon.com/AEM-C...9233?ie=UTF8&s=automotive

http://www.amazon.com/AEM-2...9233?ie=UTF8&s=automotive

tell me what allyuh think

I believe that this is for the USDM Lancers; ES LS and OZ

It may work on our SDM too, just replace the section with the MAF sensor with a straight-through piece of piping

http://www.aempower.com/ViewProduct.aspx?ProductID=171

Part # 21-434C \R\P\B

it locates teh filter under the car behind the left fog light.

there are installation instructions too

This is taken from the instruction PDF. what i am interested in is the route that they pass the pipe. Similar to the pic FRASS posted

look at where they pass the "lower pipe"

Click for full-size.

JUS4SHO can you confirm whether the pipe can be routed there in the SDM with 4G18?

Marketed as providing a max gain of 8.9 HP and 13.3 ft-lb of torque @ 3500 rpm on the OZ, which is a 2.0L engine, not sure if it is also a CVT tranny.

I will remove my stock airbox on Sunday to check this option.

the Bypass valve is also optional

This link provides a good idea on the difference between the JDM and teh USDM models - apparently a lot more than I had thought initially

apparently the USDM has a 4G94 non-GDI motor from initial research. So I stand corrected about the engine in Frass' post - it's a 4G94

research to still confirm teh tranny was CVT or mechanical

http://www.mitsubishi-forums.com/t16602-engine-swap.htm