Chaguanas SSS running on 30th August, Fire works for so....

Mini · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:27 am Post subject:

... with regards to the VK event... that wasn't a rally... nor was it put on by the TTRC, but rather TTRC members. The rules governing that event were solely for that event.

But I agree with what djaggs pointed out... there seems to be void for the enthusiast between solodex and all out racing.

sio · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:41 am Post subject:

SR you keep coming back to the same point. (the point i was trying to make is why make the tarmac event soley for rally cars when there are dex cars that can compete in a tarmac event)

And I have one word for all of you SAFETY.

SR · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:44 am Post subject:

what speeds are expected in a tarmac event

given the limitations of lets use for an example the course used for sss in chaguanas

then compare to safety requirments for thos speeds and conditions

what safety rules now apply that will eliminate a car setup for dex say from the esp class and up

fiveforward · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:03 pm Post subject:

hmmmm here is a solution, why doesn't Solodex together with the assistance of rally club just hold a street legal event. Rally already has the history, experience and set the precedence and dex have the competitors.

Both disciplines are pretty close and have no "bad blood" unlike some other organizations. And I believe that the gap will have been filled by an active Circuit Association but since we have circuit men posing as drags racers and fighting for power; there is no representation; rally and dex are the two closest disciplines to fill the void.

Like SR said not everybody is a diehard rally man and MOST racers in Trinidad are Recreational racers. But the rally guys are right Rally is Rally - they have their rules and I don't think they should break them to accommodate. However, they CAN lend the expertise to DEX to pull of such an event.

BTW pardon the emotional reply before - but this whole thing is a bit frustrating and i can't stand people saying something CAN'T happen because of this and that when it could if we could only try.

Mini · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:43 pm Post subject:

djaggs · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject:

I personally didnt like the chaguanas stage. It can be dangerous. Parts of the road too narrow and drains and culverts present their own dilemmas.

I can think of a better road in chaguanas. No buildings, its wide, smooth. The new piece of road that brings you back out onto the hwy from the eastern side of the HWY. It has a nice roundabout that can take you back up to make a lap, its easy to block off because all traffic can be routed thru chaguanas main road. No pedestrian traffic to worry about. No drains no culverts. Very fast. Its wide enough in some places to use cones to slow down cars.

Good for a time trial kinda race.

Mini · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:44 pm Post subject:

djaggs · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:51 pm Post subject:

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djaggs · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:54 pm Post subject:

Mini · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:57 pm Post subject:

djaggs · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:17 pm Post subject:

Well picong back at you too.... Very Happy

Leh we do it...the DEX club waiting.... Very Happy

I betting that Genny cud beat a few rallydrivers Very Happy

De Bench · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:20 pm Post subject:

AutoSport · Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:19 am Post subject:

“I was marshalling in front the community center which was filled people clamouring to get out. We do not have any legal right to detain anybody and hold them against their will so these people wanted to get out of the building by force if necessary.”

To clarify this, discussions were held with the Management of the Sports facility. Realizing they had a carded event, it was agreed that we would have a controlled exit of the people when required. There was a misunderstanding with our people which suggested that those in the Sports facility “had to wait” until a complete run was finished.

I immediately picked up on this and came to the entrance. Spoke to the Security, the people affected and the Manager of the facility (on the phone) and clarified this situation to the satisfaction of all concerned.

Note the comment re Monte Carlo. What you think may have happened the first time that event was run? Same for Barbados? And look at how these events are today with the incredible benefits to all concerned.

We all have to work at making this new thrust feasible for all involved or affected, and who knows where we can go in the future????

The first small step has been made. Let us all be involved in looking at every aspect of this and make every effort to aim for the sky.

De Bench · Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:06 pm Post subject:

horsepwrjunki · Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:29 pm Post subject:

question for u all though. what provisions for unlicenced or non road legal cars.. ie soem of the "bigger" circuit cars? also is this idea for a chagunas stage or included into a actual event so that all competitors have to run gravel first?.. oh and as i think of it.. the "other" cars limited to gravel tires or can run tarmac tires

wagonrunner · Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:30 pm Post subject:

Mini · Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:01 pm Post subject:

djaggs · Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:22 pm Post subject:

You definitely need more marshals...since a few people were able to slip through our control. You also need marshals that know how to talk to the public. some people just werent listening to the marshals.

I mean to make sure that nothing bad happens and spoils everything.

AutoSport · Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:32 pm Post subject:

Ok so we seem to have a consensus of doing more of these Events.

We know what we all want, a bigger better Event that would:
(a) satisfy the competitors
(b) who would satisfy the spectators
(c) who would then guarantee bigger better sponsorship.
(d) and of course also address safety and crowd issues.

In between here, all of the above commentators, who we know are keen to work with everyone else to achieve a, b, c and d, can continue to make positive constructive criticism.

I have already worked out getting more racing time within say a time period of 2:00pm till
7:00pm, that would allow for more competitors that would allow for more mileage for sponsors.

And the growth cycle continues….

junki, I say aim for the sky, but you gone pass the universe there man, but meliketheenthusiasm
Laughing

rcadiz · Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:59 pm Post subject:

Folks just a reminder. Chaguanas and other similar stages are NOT race tracks. They are not designed and never will be fit enough to be a race track. I know everyone's plight in the country with not having a place to race. But the Chaguanas stage was a street special (90% of the racing took place on proper suited rally stages).

My simple point here is let us not get carried away with trying to race everywhere. The aim is to get a proper race track so we don't have to substitute the nations roads.

We can come up with race courses on our roadways but i think a lot pf people are missing the immense logistical coordination that it takes just to have a 3 hour event. Trust me i have first hand knowledge of this.

This is not meant to discourage but really to be practical. We used the Chaguanas event as a crowd pleaser and and to hype up our sport. It is my personal view that trying to turn certain roads into championship race courses by our local standards is a lot more difficult than people may wish to admit. Everyone wants a place to race but lets not get too carried away.