Chaguanas SSS running on 30th August, Fire works for so....

Sumana.00 · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:34 pm Post subject:

Thanks

rcadiz · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: Come on the gravel

Circuit cars and rally cars

Folks the TTRC is in a very forutnate position as opposed to other motor-sporting disciplines. Rally Trinidad was a great success last year and this year in terms of participation and publicity. Moving forward it looks like with the absence of a proper circuit track at least for the forseeable future (hopefully not too long) racers will have to seek alternative forms of competition. There are obvious similarities between rally cars and circuit cars in terms of safety preparation. Ansel Ali's car was originally prepped for circuit and made the conversion through suspension upgrades and modifications to the cage. He also put in another seat. Junior Phillips in the Lancer also made the necessary changes (cage, suspension, seat, etc). The TTRC does not want to come accross as the cocky motorsport hogging all the attention and shutting out other clubs. THAT IS NOT OUR INTENTION. However while we are enjoying a favourable position it is crucial that we try to build a sport properly by having cars and competitors who are well prepared. The sport can quickly get very dangerous if we are not careful. Who knows what the outcome would have been if Bench, Ainsley, Scott, Rezan, James Harris, etc. did not have the necessary safety in place. The fact is all their respective incidents are barely remembered now as they were simply 'cosmetic' in their end result.

We would love and openly encourage all circuit racers who have cars parked up and are getting restless. Accept the situation as unfortunate as it may be and weigh your options. The TTRC will provide any assitance required in helping you to decide what the requirements for getting you on the gravel. Guyana, Barbados are the viable Circuit events that Trinis can compete in but these are expensive in terms of travel and does not a full year of racing. Putting your car onto the gravel has its own challenges and expenses but may be the best option in the end . This as opposed to looking at your circuit car under the garage everyday.

The TTRC realises that street specials offers us enourmous potnetial with spectators and sponsors but we cannot allow anyone and everyone to compete just like that. The street special is one small part of an event which is part of the championship season. We had numerous formal requests to compete in that leg alone and our response was you must compete in the rest of the weekend on the gravel. Reaching the street special was almost an achievement in itself and not just a free for all for burning tires and doing donuts.

Summing it up, i think that the TTRC provides an excellent avenue for racing and if circuit guys and others serious about racing - we roll out the red carpet. Come do one event and see for yourself. Give yourself a new challenge and who knows you may be hooked like many of us were the first time we came around a corner sideways in the dirt.

AutoSport · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:39 pm Post subject:

Re the tyres not yet removed, I take full responsibility for this outstanding matter.

I have been pursing the removal of the tyres from immediately after the event, and was advised that some were removed and the others would have already been removed.

I will personally see that this is done early this week.

djaggs · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:04 pm Post subject:

Thank God for roll cages.....

SR · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:13 pm Post subject:

sigh

unlike others who may be looking for a fight or other gains

my point was missed

yes i have read the entire thread

so allyuh could go ahead and beat the bobolee

De Bench · Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:20 pm Post subject:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

We try to talk straight.

What is your point ?

horsepwrjunki · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:05 pm Post subject:

idont think any thign short of thee specs jerome listed early on should be alowed.. not knockinany one group but i dont think u could compare saith park ss to arc bycc.. not interms of speed an obsticals.. i agree with karl that vk may have proved a stp up for solodex but.. ive seem here ppl who have rolled there cars already tellign u that it is a bad idea.. that is soemthign in it self. i dont race but ive been in many cars with full cages adn on teh street they arenot as comfortable as ppl think.. soemthign as simple as on the rd those who drive with thier hands ont he door is a bigg no no.. etc etc.. but again .. the kind of ppl who tellin u not to should be enough.. u talkin bout bench ( long list ent jerome)..autosports( many stories all over the caribean to atest).. sio an robbie.. igns who has driven his daily not so stock driver on the stages.. all are experienced drivers.. and while i know SR has a point in there. shazad u should jsut come out an say it..

De Bench · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:40 pm Post subject:

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bench maybe he can call Justin for some assistance in translating that to proper English Smile

Duane 3NE 2NR · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:21 am Post subject:

this didnt happen on the tarmac, but rallying is rallying regardless of the surface and safety should always be paramount - luckily Lochan and Dumas had everything proper, they just flipped the car back over and kept rallying!

Marshals and safety equipment at hand also play an important role too!

Click for full-size.

yes I used this as a free plug to show some pics! Laughing

but the point is still valid!

fiveforward · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:40 am Post subject:

"The TTRC does not want to come accross as the cocky motorsport hogging all the attention and shutting out other clubs. THAT IS NOT OUR INTENTION. "

^^^ Not intentionally but yes it is! Sigh.....no wonder i don't like rally; the cockiness and head in the sky attitude is astoundingly obnoxious.

"Summing it up, i think that the TTRC provides an excellent avenue for racing and if circuit guys and others serious about racing - we roll out the red carpet. Come do one event and see for yourself. Give yourself a new challenge and who knows you may be hooked like many of us were the first time we came around a corner sideways in the dirt."

^^^ this statement bothers me deeply and proves my point. You r saying that in order to get serious about racing i should convert my drag car into a rally car to give myself a new challenge....BS.

Safety is an issue that can be addressed by course layout, mandates, assistance and a proper understanding of what is required by drivers and their vehicles. Rally drivers have this ridiculous air of driving superiority about them that is rather sickening and it's odd that nobody else talks about that. I agree that in RT09 the chaguanas stage was part of a bigger even, so accomodating a time attack/ street circuit there would have been inappropriate BUT......

don't tell me that a street circuit can't happen because of safety and driver experience since you CAN change stuff to suit varying degrees of driver competence if you WANT to. Tell me rally clud doesn't want to take on the responsibility, tell me that it's a bit too much work but don't use these ridiculous reasons to justify mindless stupidity.

>>> then again who iz me to talk since i'm a noob on this site and my intelligence is tantamount to that a street racer.

Mini · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:21 am Post subject:

horsepwrjunki · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:51 am Post subject:

sorry jerome side efects of using a dell... Mr. Green

.. scort.. refer to teh APC for a junkinese- english translation software

De Bench · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:06 am Post subject:

djaggs · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:15 am Post subject:

What is probably needed is a new racing disclipline, one that bridges the Gap between club racer and all out full racing.

There isnt a formula for club racers in Trinidad, the closest is Dex but Dex is soooo frustrating because as soon as youre about ready to race you have to mash brakes. Very irritating.

If anybody is willling to come together to start something, lemme know.

Its unfortunate but, the rally club will only put on events for its members. In order for anyone to participate you have to come up to spec. Even if all you have is your road car. Club racing is meant for the regular guy who is an enthusiast who likes to spend time tuning his street car and wants to have a lil go at it. That formula doesnt exist in Trinidad. There wil be a progression into full racing for many who are hooked at the club level and its a good way for the other bodies to increase their membership.

If anyone is interested in pursuing this lets talk.

Ignorant Ignis · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:34 am Post subject:

i still can't see why ppl fighting down the issue of there own saftey Confused

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solodex mandates no anti lag ....does that mean we discriminate against rally drives ?
drags says -12sec cars need a roll cage but that is another issue (120y with muffler pipe that not even welded properly)
the drift club tell meh i need a rear wheel drive car Evil or Very Mad

i was still all up in there event Laughing

go karting ? Mr. Green

i firmly believe thats if an event is held on the streets and some one dies or gets seriuosly hurt because they didn't have the mandated saftey equipments and the media makes frezy of it we will never see another event of it's kind.

rcadiz · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:49 am Post subject:

Mini · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:54 am Post subject:

SR · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:12 am Post subject:

De Bench · Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:25 am Post subject:

Shazard, this si where this stands.

You want a club man type setting, OK.

As a club man, you must had a cage, race setas and fire suppression.

However that will only apply to 2wd cars.

As per TTRC rules, all 4wd cars MUST be fitted with a restrictor.

In Dex, there are 4wd cars generating mor HP & Torque than the rally car.
Also, all 4wd cars must have a welded in cage.

Yoiu should know the effects of a restrictor, the result equates a better margin of saftey for the spectators, the cars saftey is for YOU.