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Mini 3NE 2NR Moderator
Joined: 24 Mar 2003 Tech posts: 6823 Location: back in the co-driver's seat... where I belong! My 2NRide: Suzuki Grand Vitara
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| djaggs wrote: |
BTW, i was thinking about getting a rollcage installed for my road car, dont know what my insurance company going to tell me though when they see it. Some of us cannot afford to have a racecar parked up in the garage.
But I ent know about a fire suppression system, why cant a fire extinguisher suffice.
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I think a fire extinguisher can work... that's what Bench meant by fire suppression system (he just used a big word)...the TTRC rules say minimum one or combination of 2 extinguishers that add up to 5lbs total
a roll cage in a road can can be uncomfortable and dangerous... way back before solodex made helmets mandatory.... once you had a roll cage in the car... you had to wear a helmet... the idea is in a roll your head going to bang the cage pretty hard... so unless you gonna be driving around most times with a hemlet, I won't advise a roll cage...
that said... maybe if you don't have back seat passengers all the time, you can put a half cage in the back, and bolt in the front for events such as this |
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AutoSport Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Back then, in my lil March, when we used to run Nav events, and pull up to a SS, put on helmets, run the SS, end stage, take off helmets and continue Nav., I had a half cage installed, with the two supporting back braces bolted in top and bottom – back seat folded down. But the overhead hoop was fully padded. At the end of the event, when we all gathered to exchange experiences, I would take about 10 minutes, remove the back braces, bring back-seat upright, and car back to family use.
Now I know today the rules are more stringent. But if you want to do something bad enough you can find a way to do it. |
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djaggs Chronic TriniTuner
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:39 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the advice, i didnt think about making it removable. I actually sourced a roll cage that comes in two parts, rear and front. That doesnt sound too bad...  |
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DEVI not Admin
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:05 am Post subject: |
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| so if people wanted to prep their Swifts and Mirages?....how much time we got to see if this rumour is true? |
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Rallyfignis TriniTuner WHOoRE
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:44 am Post subject: |
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| DEVI wrote: | | how much time we got to see if this rumour is true? |
Probably a 2 years, tek yuh time...
Then again TP BIG in Chaguanas eh, so yuh never know  |
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Ignorant Ignis 3NE 2NR Power Seller
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| DEVI wrote: | | so if people wanted to prep their Swifts, Ignis and Mirages?....how much time we got to see if this rumour is true? |
10k for a 60+ second course  |
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djaggs Chronic TriniTuner
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:35 am Post subject: |
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I can get a nice autosport cage for about 500US that can unbolt to convert for street use. Shipping's gonna be a beyotch though...
Can get for the Mirage too Devi, if youre interested.
Its SCCA and IMSA approved.
This is just the rear half, the full cage includes a front portion. Hopefully this wud be sufficient.
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AutoSport Sweet on this forum
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Why wait until the time is nigh! And it will be in a month or two.
Do it now, and with the main hoop in place PERMANENTLY, and PROPERLY PADDED, you now have a lil more protection in case of a T-bone attack.
Try using a 4-point or a 5-point harness, and suddenly, mentally, you will find that bit more "security and protection", and might even go a bit faster.
It is a real cool experience to do a 360 roll, feel your knees alone moving about, land back on all fours, and ready to go again - once you find your spectacles! |
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djaggs Chronic TriniTuner
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| AutoSport wrote: |
It is a real cool experience to do a 360 roll, feel your knees alone moving about, land back on all fours, and ready to go again - once you find your spectacles! |
sheit !!! I change meh mind !!!!!  |
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puta civic 2NR MILF Hunter
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Look there is only one way to settle this
AH CURRY DUCK COOK OFF!!!
Rally vs Dex vs Circuit vs Carting vs DWO vs Bikers vs
Dem boy who does drive a 1/4mile straight line and call dem self drivers
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saltydog CARS Member
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SR Chief Cook & Instigator
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| tr1ad wrote: | | all ah we is one famahleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
aparantly not
why exclude experience dex drivers from this event
course speeds probably will be just as fast as a regualr dex event
as well as in the vk event there was a filtering process so that no in experince drivers would be on the course
however
once again with very little motorsport activity in this country people choose to alienate other bodies
dex is open to anyone and any car
but how many circuit and rally drivers attend or compete
is it pride? or somthing else |
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sio Chronic TriniTuner
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:39 am Post subject: |
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SR, boss have you been reading this topic????
Go back to the top before you post anything else. ALL YOUR ANSWERS ARE THERE. |
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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SR are you serious?
"however
once again with very little motorsport activity in this country people choose to alienate other bodies
dex is open to anyone and any car
but how many circuit and rally drivers attend or compete
is it pride? or somthing else"
Alienating other bodies - are you kidding me?
There is always rally interest in Dex - many rally cars have competed including myself. But let's get a few things straight - gravel set up, gravel tires, anti-lag, race fuel, gearbox issues with driving to ARC and back. Come on man look at the facts before you come on this forum and talk a pile. Doing a dex event is not a simple thing for a Rally car - we come we compete from time to time when it can happen based on my points above. Nothing about pride and all that crap that people love to bring up. Please people actually compete for things other than pride and how they look in a trinituner picture. Maybe it may actually clue in to you that people compete because they love it. Get off the damn point about pride etc. Before you look at VK and the Chaguanas Rally stages as progress for motorsport - NO it ends up turning into a who beats who and who motorsport discipline has the best drivers. Please next thing we gonna here from you is that because a go-kart travels the same distance faster than a motor-cross bike it means that the karting drivers are better and the TORMATT guys have bruised egos.
The Chaguanas stage was a competitive leg for rally cars in Rally Trinidad. Dex cars, Go Karts, Circuit cars could not compete for that reason - IT WAS A RALLY. If you know anything about anything about Motorsport maybe you would understand and actually give some words of encouragement or constructive criticism.
I eh know what to do again - it really pisses me off that people continue to think that because they can't come and enter a rally event because of car and safety preparation that the TTRC is (and i quote) alienating other disciplines. And that dex is a club that allows everyone and blah blah blah. This is unfortunately the view of a few narrow minded individuals and not the view of the majority of CARS, AUTOSPORT, TORMATT, TTKA, and dare i say TTASA and also people who care about moving motorsport forward.
I going to enjoy the rest of my Sunday............................................... |
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Ignorant Ignis 3NE 2NR Power Seller
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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to be very honest ... i have to agree with sio and cadiz.
there is no way i would push my car on the chaguanas stage or advise anyone to do so with out the proper safety requirements mandated by the TTRC. As most of you noticed i drove quit slow for RT09
why you ask ?
1)the chaguanas stage has far greater dangers than any solodex course and the VK event.
and it's not about who is a better driver ...cause we all know sheit happens and when it does ... i would prefer to be inside a roll cages. cause incase none of you saw it....it's filled with big open drians, high pavements, fences, walls, potholes & spectators.
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De Bench TriniTuner WHOoRE
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Ignorant Ignis wrote: | to be very honest ... i have to agree with sio and cadiz.
there is no way i would push my car on the chaguanas stage or advise anyone to do so with out the proper safety requirements mandated by the TTRC. As most of you noticed i drove quit slow for RT09
why you ask ?
1)the chaguanas stage has far greater dangers than any solodex course and the VK event.
and it's not about who is a better driver ...cause we all know sheit happens and when it does ... i would prefer to be inside a roll cages. cause incase none of you saw it....it's filled with big open drians, high pavements, fences, walls, potholes & spectators.
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Please bear that is is being said by a Experienced Sole Dex competitor.
I do hops all the folks who want to enter in the next Chaguans SSS get thier cars up to the proper saftey standard prior the event.
We invite you all to come and compete safely. |
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djaggs Chronic TriniTuner
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Can full race circuit cars compete??
Im trying to convince someone to bring out his full race EVO which he has covered up in his garage collecting dust. It cost 1M plus but it just park up.
Please say yes because I soooo want to see it run.
BTW, with regards to the roll cage issue, I dont have a problem with it being a requirement. Its ok to not need one for Dex, but if you intend to move up to a different level, you have to be prepared to make the necessary changes to your equipment. Its a part of the sport thats all. It cant be avoided, and I dont think the TTRC made the roll cage issue mandatory to exclude anyone, im sure its a safety issue.
Ive been wanting to put a roll cage in my car since i bought it, only because i dont feel too safe in it, its a little matchbox, very flimsy. |
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Sumana.00 Riding on 13's
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Was just coming to post, guess I'll post in here cos TTRC people should be reading....the tires used @ the Chaguanas Stage have not been removed as yet...When would this be done? |
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De Bench TriniTuner WHOoRE
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| djaggs wrote: | Can full race circuit cars compete??
Im trying to convince someone to bring out his full race EVO which he has covered up in his garage collecting dust. It cost 1M plus but it just park up.Please say yes because I soooo want to see it run. |
I don't decide who gets to compete, you need to contact the correct people at TTRC, Cadiz, Sio etc....
What i can tell you is if TTRc is having the event the EVo will need a Restrictor on the inlet of the turbo.In this case that car may be closer to a Grp A spec car, so it will need a 34mm restrictor.
this will alkso apply to all the other AWD/4WD car that wish to compete.
It is MANDATORY that these cars be fitted with restrictors as this is a means of keeping the power levels down so speeds are kept down and therefore a better saftey factor.
In the olden days of Grp B rally cars many drivers and spectators was killed due to to much power.
2WD car don't require a restrictor. |
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miz06 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Sumana.00 wrote: | | Was just coming to post, guess I'll post in here cos TTRC people should be reading....the tires used @ the Chaguanas Stage have not been removed as yet...When would this be done? |
Thank you .. they should be removed this week ... |
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