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bargin boi Street 2NR
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:09 am Post subject: bridging speakers on deck |
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| if u do dis, wat wud b d outcome?..wud d speakers ur using (6.5" or 6", less dan 280 watts each ) on d deck, wud be able 2 handle everyday playin in ur car at a certain volume?.. |
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nareshseep Chronic TriniTuner
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| pioneer? |
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VexXx Dogg punchin NOS
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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chances are you gonna blow the output IC's on the HU.
run ah amp nah man. |
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slow323 Trinituner Peong
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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waz da ohms
are the speakers 4 ohm ? if they are wired parallel then it go work if you wire them in series then the resistance go be greater taking more of the deck power push the speakers
im open to correction to this though |
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bargin boi Street 2NR
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| nareshseep wrote: | | pioneer? |
yea, d 2009 510 premier... |
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bargin boi Street 2NR
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| slow323 wrote: | waz da ohms
are the speakers 4 ohm ? if they are wired parallel then it go work if you wire them in series then the resistance go be greater taking more of the deck power push the speakers
im open to correction to this though |
yea its 4 ohm..i go never run a 8 ohm speaker on da deck..i no better...wel if u tink i shud run d speaker in parallel, ah go try it, but again, am always on d safe side |
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bargin boi Street 2NR
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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| VexXx Dogg wrote: | chances are you gonna blow the output IC's on the HU.
run ah amp nah man. |
i no 2 run amps on speakers...das y i never did used d 4 channels on d deck...in oda words, i doh wah c any dimming at high volumes....but blowin d HU one ting i doh wah do...if dat blow ah cry like a wolf..thx for d advice...
ANYMORE SUGGESTIONS? |
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nareshseep Chronic TriniTuner
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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those pioneer can run one 2 ohm speaker at 70 watts and two 4 ohm at 50 rms ,
I think, check the manual, deck will get hot. |
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Pre 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| ^^^^^ only d back 2 channels are bridgeable i think it gives 70rms@4ohms my partner install 2 pioneer 6" and one 8" single 4 sub in a ole model march on d 4000ub pioneer deck and it sounded ok, i cant really say out it getting hot or long term performance cause i never see d man after dat |
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DJ Q Shifting into 6th
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| slow323 wrote: | waz da ohms
are the speakers 4 ohm ? if they are wired parallel then it go work if you wire them in series then the resistance go be greater taking more of the deck power push the speakers
im open to correction to this though |
If they are wired in parallel that's a 2 ohm load. That's actually a greater challenge from the deck vs running an 8 ohm load which is easier for the internal amp to do... it's just that you won't get as much output.
It's like going to a destination on foot. If you walk (8 ohm load), you'll get there in a timely manner, probably sweat minimally and would be good to go, but if you RUN (2 ohm load), you'll be out of breath, smelling bad and need to relax before you go again
| bargin boi wrote: |
yea its 4 ohm..i go never run a 8 ohm speaker on da deck..i no better | What makes you think that something's wrong with running 8 ohm speakers off of a deck? |
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bargin boi Street 2NR
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:15 am Post subject: |
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| Pre wrote: | | ^^^^^ only d back 2 channels are bridgeable i think it gives 70rms@4ohms my partner install 2 pioneer 6" and one 8" single 4 sub in a ole model march on d 4000ub pioneer deck and it sounded ok, i cant really say out it getting hot or long term performance cause i never see d man after dat |
which 2 channels...d front or d rear?.. |
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bargin boi Street 2NR
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:22 am Post subject: |
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| DJ Q wrote: | | slow323 wrote: | waz da ohms
are the speakers 4 ohm ? if they are wired parallel then it go work if you wire them in series then the resistance go be greater taking more of the deck power push the speakers
im open to correction to this though |
If they are wired in parallel that's a 2 ohm load. That's actually a greater challenge from the deck vs running an 8 ohm load which is easier for the internal amp to do... it's just that you won't get as much output.
It's like going to a destination on foot. If you walk (8 ohm load), you'll get there in a timely manner, probably sweat minimally and would be good to go, but if you RUN (2 ohm load), you'll be out of breath, smelling bad and need to relax before you go again
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yea its 4 ohm..i go never run a 8 ohm speaker on da deck..i no better | What makes you think that something's wrong with running 8 ohm speakers off of a deck? |
so DJ Q..am assuming if in bridge d 8 ohm speaker, am gna get a 4 ohm load...if u tink dis is d best way 2 do it , plz correct me..if not, i'l lov 2 hear your suggestion |
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DJ Q Shifting into 6th
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:00 am Post subject: |
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I honestly do not know what you just said... please speak/type in better english.
I'm being serious... not trying to mess you up. |
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bargin boi Street 2NR
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:15 am Post subject: |
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^^^u asked me in a previous post: "What makes you think that something's wrong with running 8 ohm speakers off of a deck?"......so now am askin u, if i bridge d 8 ohm speaker on one of d channels on d deck,...wat is d final impendence on d speaker...will u get a 4 ohm load?....corrcet me plz
Is it more clear now ?  |
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DJ Q Shifting into 6th
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Well seeing that that's your best attempt at english.. let me address what I see...
| Quote: | | if i bridge d 8 ohm speaker on one of d channels on d deck, |
It seems to me like you're misunderstanding the term "bridging". By you saying the 8 ohm speaker <singular> on one channel... you're confusing something.. either you're trying to wire two 8 ohm loads in parallel or trying to connect one speaker across two channels.
And by the way... I was unaware that Pioneer decks are bridgeable.. I know it to be that the rear channels can handle either ONE 2 ohm load.. or TWO 4 ohm loads...
Correct me if I'm wrong |
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bargin boi Street 2NR
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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| ^^^ i wanna know if u can wire 1 8 ohm speaker to the deck, without causing damage 2 it in anyway...if dis is possible, plz giv ur suggestion(s) on how u go about doin dis... |
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Pre 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| bargin boi wrote: | | Pre wrote: | | ^^^^^ only d back 2 channels are bridgeable i think it gives 70rms@4ohms my partner install 2 pioneer 6" and one 8" single 4 sub in a ole model march on d 4000ub pioneer deck and it sounded ok, i cant really say out it getting hot or long term performance cause i never see d man after dat |
which 2 channels...d front or d rear?.. |
the rear channels |
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bargin boi Street 2NR
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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^^^^thx PRE...bump  |
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DJ Q Shifting into 6th
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| bargin boi wrote: | | ^^^ i wanna know if u can wire 1 8 ohm speaker to the deck, without causing damage 2 it in anyway...if dis is possible, plz giv ur suggestion(s) on how u go about doin dis... |
Just connect it as normal.
One question.. where's the bridge? |
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