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javedsport Ricer
Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Tech posts: 17 Location: Ah Quarter Mile Ahead... My 2NRide: Honda Prelude
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: BOOSTING AN H22A |
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| NEED SOME HELP ON THIS TOPIC AS I'M CONTEMPLATING ON THIS PROJECT.CAN I BOOST MY H22A WITH STOCK INTERNALS?IF SO HOW MUCH BOOST WE TALKING.I ALREADY HAVE A BRAND NEW PIGGY BACK SYSTEM BY APEXI AND A BRAND NEW FULL RACE CLUTCH SETUP BY CLUTCH MASTERS FOR THE BUILD.BTW THE VEHICLE IS A PRELUDE AND AS IS THE CAR PULLS GREAT FOR STOCK.WHAT'S YOUR VIEWS ON THE TOPIC? |
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kes_vtec Shifting into 6th
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Tech posts: 2048 Location: time out My 2NRide: Honda Civic
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| 8psi |
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SR Chief Cook & Instigator
Joined: 07 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 5425
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:50 am Post subject: |
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| then BOOM unless yuh prepared to spend some serious money |
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kes_vtec Shifting into 6th
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Tech posts: 2048 Location: time out My 2NRide: Honda Civic
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:08 am Post subject: |
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i hope u getting ready for dex....  |
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SR Chief Cook & Instigator
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:11 am Post subject: |
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who walkin wit food
ah chargin $10 for a ride eh |
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kes_vtec Shifting into 6th
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Tech posts: 2048 Location: time out My 2NRide: Honda Civic
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:13 am Post subject: |
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lol... wah the ass...
i find u should want tuh give me ah ride...
kfc for it... |
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SUPAstarr 3NE 2NR Power Seller
Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Tech posts: 183 Location: Her name is Isabel and she needs a B series My 2NRide: Honda Civic
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| ive done some research and FROM WHAT IVE READ, 6-8 psi is fine for stock internals for H22, but anythin above that, build it, cuz it will blow up |
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kes_vtec Shifting into 6th
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Tech posts: 2048 Location: time out My 2NRide: Honda Civic
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: |
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it will not "blow up" the head will start to lift...
so put some ARPs and ur good for 10, 11, this is where the rod and fail...
at 13, the pistons will fail...
some have pushed it higher,but i will not... |
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SurGTR 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| juss make sure yuh have a proper wastegate cause if that stick and yuh overboost, bye bye engine |
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Kinday TriniTuner 24-7
Joined: 19 May 2003 Tech posts: 1865 Location: 8500rpm My 2NRide: Honda Accord
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Your engine will safely take up to about 8psi on the stock set up. You can go higher but thats the time bomb territory. Do as Kes mentioned and put in the head studs for security. Don't skimp on quality parts either, unless your Apexi unit is a Power FC then get rid of it and go Hondata, Crome, etc. DO IT RIGHT
BTW....make sure you're suspension is set up to make the most of the power you'll be putting out. |
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turbochinee 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Tech posts: 104
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:11 am Post subject: |
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The man eh even say what type a turbo he using and allyuh telling the man all kinds of psi.
What is the max hp the engine could take stock? Is what he should be trying to find out |
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De Dragon 3NE2NR is my LIFE
Joined: 27 Jan 2004 Tech posts: 711 Location: Enjoying my little miracle............ My 2NRide: Honda Civic
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| If you haven't already,upgrade your braking system! |
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javedsport Ricer
Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Tech posts: 17 Location: Ah Quarter Mile Ahead... My 2NRide: Honda Prelude
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| so basically I'm looking @ 8psi on stock internals...I have the apexi neo piggy back system..will this work for the build?And another thing..How much horsepwr we looking @ after the set up.I think stock h22a is between 190-200hp...Correct me if I'm wrong... |
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kes_vtec Shifting into 6th
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Tech posts: 2048 Location: time out My 2NRide: Honda Civic
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:54 am Post subject: |
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if you are using a neo, you should up the injectors, get a FPR, and a BTM a pull some timing...
but it will be alot better to sell the neo and get some form of EMS and 450cc injectors. |
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javedsport Ricer
Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Tech posts: 17 Location: Ah Quarter Mile Ahead... My 2NRide: Honda Prelude
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:22 am Post subject: |
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| you mean like a greddy Emanage or something? What's the capacity rating on my H22a injectors in cc's? |
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crazybalhead punchin NOS
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:04 am Post subject: |
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A stupid questio guys, but what about a boost controoler and solenoid to give a tapering boost level, so that at faster engine speeds, the boost will taper off to sayyyy 4-5 PSI, and peak at 7-8 a little lower down on the RPM range.
I dunno if thais an obvious question and done already.
Is not the best idea in terms of power, but may be "safer' for the engine.
???? |
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kes_vtec Shifting into 6th
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Tech posts: 2048 Location: time out My 2NRide: Honda Civic
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Emanage, hondata, powerfc, crome aem, any one of those...
it doe not matter what the stock injector are as honda has already set them to hit 90% at the redline of the motor...
crazybalhead, it is not so much, as "stay safe" but more more a question of control...
and the motor will want more boost as you go up in rpm, and you will feel the power loss badly.
it will safer, better to do it right, and make more power...
but it is a good move of your really note sure about the parts you have... |
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javedsport Ricer
Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Tech posts: 17 Location: Ah Quarter Mile Ahead... My 2NRide: Honda Prelude
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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ok guys so basically this is what I need...
Feel free to update and add what I left out...
*H22a turbo extracted manifold
*t3/t4 turbonetics charger
*intercooler with piping kit
*aeromotive fpr
*Engine management system
*electronic boost controller
*Mugen ecu chip(no rev limiter,speed cut,8500rpm comfortable,advanced timing)
*MSD6 btm boost/timing management control
*external waste gate/blow off
*ARP head studs...
Ok guys update me on this list....If I need to add more or minus something....You tell me....This is the Draft... |
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red_dragon Street 2NR
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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^ BTW what is the mileage on the engine
this is a key factor before you start to build your beast
this one is from my Bro Kes .. home work time
360 degrees h22 build by Castro 362WHp 244LBs (8psi,440 and a humm S200)
HT NOv 200?
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kes_vtec Shifting into 6th
Joined: 05 Jun 2004 Tech posts: 2048 Location: time out My 2NRide: Honda Civic
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| javedsport wrote: | ok guys so basically this is what I need...
Feel free to update and add what I left out...
*H22a turbo extracted manifold
*t3/t4 turbonetics charger
*intercooler with piping kit
*aeromotive fpr
*Engine management system
*electronic boost controller
*Mugen ecu chip(no rev limiter,speed cut,8500rpm comfortable,advanced timing)
*MSD6 btm boost/timing management control
*external waste gate/blow off
*ARP head studs...
| if you have EMS you will not need the
*Mugen ecu chip(no rev limiter,speed cut,8500rpm comfortable,advanced timing), *MSD6 btm boost/timing management control and the *aeromotive fpr |
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