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BlueIce Shifting into 6th
Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Tech posts: 2119 Location: President of CFRA (cane field racing assoc.) My 2NRide:
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject: BMW engine swap |
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My bro in law has a 95 model e36 sedan , the engine is giving alot headache , and no bmw specialist can seem to help him out.
It refuses to get past 80kmph now and is dead slow acceleration.
So rather than repair is he decided to do a swap because no one seems to be able to efficiently repair the engine , it believe its a 1.8 4 cyl n/a
Forget about repair for a while guys , i just want to know
what would be a good bmw engine to swap in , what price , and location.
Also we were experimenting with the idea of puttin in a 2jzgte auto.
he needs help on deciding a route and the best bmw engine to put in , there must be some bm fellah here
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JDM_GUY Trinituner Peong
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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smokey1275 3NE2NR is my LIFE
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Tech posts: 815 Location: hitting the revlimiter , shifting into 5th My 2NRide: Toyota Corolla
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| sr20 de , det or vvl is the easiest bet man . the bmw does not have the suspension to handle the rb. at least in stock form . a modified rb25 running 220 plus horsepower is overkill. the stock 325 I motor only comes with 170 stock and about 160 lbs ft of torque so i won't risk it. |
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smokey1275 3NE2NR is my LIFE
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Tech posts: 815 Location: hitting the revlimiter , shifting into 5th My 2NRide: Toyota Corolla
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| ice where are you located ? |
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zodiaque CARS Member
Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 2000 Location: The thin line between brave and insane My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Lancer
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: BMW engine swap |
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| BlueIce wrote: | My bro in law has a 95 model e36 sedan , the engine is giving alot headache , and no bmw specialist can seem to help him out.
It refuses to get past 80kmph now and is dead slow acceleration.
So rather than repair is he decided to do a swap because no one seems to be able to efficiently repair the engine , it believe its a 1.8 4 cyl n/a
Forget about repair for a while guys , i just want to know
what would be a good bmw engine to swap in , what price , and location.
Also we were experimenting with the idea of puttin in a 2jzgte auto.
he needs help on deciding a route and the best bmw engine to put in , there must be some bm fellah here
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Slick92GS-R Street 2NR
Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Tech posts: 36 Location: Miami, Fl. My 2NRide:
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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for my BMW info -- i use bimmerfourms.com he can swap any kinda rwd combo motor.. used e36 4cyl motors are easy to come by -- but if the motor runs and idles fine, but it has a problem on acceleraltion .. it u shouldn't have to swap to remedy .. poor acceleration might be a timing issue. he may have jumped a tooth on the timing or might have a problem with his tranny is its auto --
Hope this helps, let me know
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BlueIce Shifting into 6th
Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Tech posts: 2119 Location: President of CFRA (cane field racing assoc.) My 2NRide:
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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thanks zodiaque , the first option would be to get a replacement bmw engine , if that is extremely overkill pricewise he says he wont mind putting in a turbo japanese engine but thats last resort.
smokey i'm from cunupia. |
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BlueIce Shifting into 6th
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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Slick92GS-R, Bringing in an engine on our own is too much of a headache. I was hoping to get some link to a local bmw guy so we could go check it out b4 he pelts out cash.
The issue with the car is really strange , first off its not reving past 4K , it was progressive....last yr it wasnt reving past 5500 , then 4500, now 4000. Likewise the max speed kept dropping. He carried it in to a number of "bmw specialists" and they keep sucking money from him with no improvement. Some say airflow , changed it 3 times - no diff. Rewired the car - no difference. etc with the smae result. |
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Slick92GS-R Street 2NR
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| smokey1275 wrote: | | sr20 de , det or vvl is the easiest bet man . the bmw does not have the suspension to handle the rb. at least in stock form . a modified rb25 running 220 plus horsepower is overkill. the stock 325 I motor only comes with 170 stock and about 160 lbs ft of torque so i won't risk it. |
i don't agree with you -- the e36 platform came with twin cam vanos M series 3.2 motor that put ot 240 hp ..a stock rb would be fine -- |
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whome Street 2NR
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| put on a scope and look at all signals. |
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Slick92GS-R Street 2NR
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BlueIce Shifting into 6th
Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Tech posts: 2119 Location: President of CFRA (cane field racing assoc.) My 2NRide:
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:56 am Post subject: |
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thanks bro
he changed plugs and wires recently as well , cleaned injectors too.
I'll get the run down 2morow from him
I guess the reason they go after the maf first is because of the rev pattern dropping , i've experinced how a bad maf can cause ur limiter to drop from 7500 to 3000. So maybe thats why they checked it first |
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Cleriq 12 pounds of Boost
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| BlueIce wrote: | Slick92GS-R
The issue with the car is really strange , first off its not reving past 4K , it was progressive....last yr it wasnt reving past 5500 , then 4500, now 4000. Likewise the max speed kept dropping. . |
Sounding like when my other integra had a clogged air filter; kept getting slower and slower and rev limit kept dropping. As a matter fact I shouldn't say 'rev limit' but that the engine wouldnt rev to the normal limit.
I dunno, sometimes the problem can be real simple. |
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BlueIce Shifting into 6th
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:55 am Post subject: |
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As a matter fact I shouldn't say 'rev limit' but that the engine wouldnt rev to the normal limit
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true , i jus compared it to the rev limit because the engine was not reving past the said mark , it was bouncing back jus like when hitting the true limiter. |
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A-1 Superior Tech 3NE 2NR Power Seller
Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 5815 Location: All Over My 2NRide: Nissan R34 Skyline
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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if u can get someone to check out the brain, u should let them check it. Not each and everyone should tho, just to look at it inside to see if anything may be burnt.
a 6 cylinder engine would have possible space issues and suspension issues, so keeping that as last resort is a good thing.
I remember seeing a BMW engine in the bamboo digging up last week, but it was kinda big so i dunno if its a 4 or 6 cylinder. Dunno if it was bamboo marketing or th epeople next to them |
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Slick92GS-R Street 2NR
Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Tech posts: 36 Location: Miami, Fl. My 2NRide:
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| *~TeamH2O~* wrote: | | if u can get someone to check out the brain, u should let them check it. Not each and everyone should tho, just to look at it inside to see if anything may be burnt. |
if u can borrow a ecu from someone else..swap it out to see if that helps
| Quote: | | a 6 cylinder engine would have possible space issues and suspension issues, so keeping that as last resort is a good thing. |
if u mean space in the engine bay -- no, that is incorrect. all e-36 bmws (92 to 98 ) chassis carried either inline 6 or 4cyl motors. suspension for engine weight differences are also not an issue. simply swap springs |
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zodiaque CARS Member
Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Tech posts: 2000 Location: The thin line between brave and insane My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Lancer
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I know you said that you were not bothering with fixing the existing engine, but I just kind of curious obout what exactly causing it to run that badly one time. Any other symptoms? like burning oil etc.? also, did it just suddenly start acting that way? |
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adri 2nr I LUV THIS PLACE
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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sr20det
have people wondering what's under the hood..parts easy to source..remember the age of the car..getting a new bmw engine not gonna raise to resale value |
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BlueIce Shifting into 6th
Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Tech posts: 2119 Location: President of CFRA (cane field racing assoc.) My 2NRide:
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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if u mean space in the engine bay -- no, that is incorrect. all e-36 bmws (92 to 98 ) chassis carried either inline 6 or 4cyl motors. suspension for engine weight differences are also not an issue. simply swap springs
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correct , there is loads of space for a 6 cyclinder . that would be a breeze.
The car yet again gone by another "bmw specialist" ...something sounding like "bravian imports"(cant remeber the exact name but i know it similar) bmw specialist
So i'll let you guys know the verdict on that one
TODAY HE SAID IT WASNT GETTIN PAST 20MPH it progessively getting worse |
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Slick92GS-R Street 2NR
Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Tech posts: 36 Location: Miami, Fl. My 2NRide:
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| silly question--u sure his throttle body opening all the way ..? maybe the cable loose |
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