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speedfreak44 Street 2NR
Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Tech posts: 36 Location: playing with my vtec My 2NRide: Honda Civic SiR
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:49 pm Post subject: b18c type r vs f20b sir |
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ok, guys which engine is better ?
forgetting the price of each
the b18c is 195/200hp-138ft-lbf vs f20b 200hp-145ft-lbf
more rpm on the b18 and less on the f20 but more torque on the f20 than the b18
correct me if i stated anything wrong
so lets hear.. |
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Kinday Shifting into 6th
Joined: 19 May 2003 Tech posts: 1939 Location: 8600rpm My 2NRide: Honda Accord
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:03 am Post subject: |
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Wasn't this compared before?
There's no better engine. Both engines came with different models for different purposes. If they were limited to the same chassis from factory the comparison would make alot more sense.
Now, the B18c is the platform I'd choose, depending on the chassis and I'm assuming that you're thinking civic. Don't get me wrong the F20B is a great engine, with a rich history of racing also (Mugen 300+hp JTCC car and F3 race cars), but for an all round great performer (READ: great straightaways and superb vehicle handling) it's hard to beat the B18CR in the lighter chassis.
Back in the day, when everyone was running the B series there was hardly any support for the H and F series as they came stock in heavy chassis that everyone shyed away from. Now things are different, a lot of hybrids are emerging now with lots of support for these engines, and all motor H series engines doing low 11's and high 10's in EG/ EK street trim. I'd still choose the B18CR because it can pull similar numbers at the strip based on any relevant combination of it's vast aftermarket support and it's even more nimble around the circuit too. The F20B is also a high revving engine but it was just made for a heavy ass car (Accord SiR-T/ Torneo).
Mugen F20B
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tallman701 Riding on 13's
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:35 am Post subject: |
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| ok so what is the price for a f20b DOHC? |
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speedfreak44 Street 2NR
Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Tech posts: 36 Location: playing with my vtec My 2NRide: Honda Civic SiR
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| nice read... |
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Hirotoshi Riding on 13's
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:48 am Post subject: |
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B18c5 type R,jdm. proven performance,reliable and lot,s of avaliable aftermarket parts . |
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Sky 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Tech posts: 186 Location: Leaving the valley of VTEC!! My 2NRide: Mitsubishi Lancer MR
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:32 am Post subject: |
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| More rpm on the C5? I thought the F20B swung to 9k stock? |
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B20VTEK 3NE 2NR for life
Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Tech posts: 199 Location: hideing from the half ah car and 20 someting pound ah boost My 2NRide:
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:45 am Post subject: |
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i would take the r20b
no replacement for displacement |
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Kinday Shifting into 6th
Joined: 19 May 2003 Tech posts: 1939 Location: 8600rpm My 2NRide: Honda Accord
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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| B20VTEK wrote: | i would take the r20b
no replacement for displacement |
I'd do the same if the main focus was drag racing, but I prefer an all round performer, so the B18CR in a light chassis gives me wood My current car is 3000lbs and built around Touring....that's why she breathes through an H  |
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B20VTEK 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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i prefer boost anyways
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reiXmann Trinituner Peong
Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Tech posts: 455 Location: begging pops for meh keys :| My 2NRide: Honda Integra Type R
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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boost the f20
non-FRM sleeves  |
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B20VTEK 3NE 2NR for life
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| ^ agreed! |
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Kinday Shifting into 6th
Joined: 19 May 2003 Tech posts: 1939 Location: 8600rpm My 2NRide: Honda Accord
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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| reiXmann wrote: | boost the f20
non-FRM sleeves  |
Yip Yip....dem dere things lurves some boost |
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drugs bunny Riding on 13's
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:19 am Post subject: |
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| so peeps whats the f20 b engine redline? |
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Kinday Shifting into 6th
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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| ^^ 8200rpm |
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speedfreak44 Street 2NR
Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Tech posts: 36 Location: playing with my vtec My 2NRide: Honda Civic SiR
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| hmm same as a b16a , interesting |
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xxxxsatoxxxx Riding on 13's
Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Tech posts: 2 Location: Driver Seat My 2NRide: Honda Civic
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:59 am Post subject: |
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still hav f20b sir f.s  |
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pycho Riding on 13's
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| C32B FTMFW |
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honda hoe TriniTuner vip
Joined: 31 May 2006 Tech posts: 7215 Location: girls suck. women swallow. act your age My 2NRide: Honda Integra Type R
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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Tuner....
Joined: 05 Dec 2008 Tech posts: 0 Location: Fixing my vic..... My 2NRide:
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:02 am Post subject: |
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Hands down B18C Winner.....Would even pick a B16a in front of the F20B once its' to put in civic.....  |
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reiXmann Trinituner Peong
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:11 am Post subject: |
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| Tuner.... wrote: | Hands down B18C Winner.....Would even pick a B16a in front of the F20B once its' to put in civic.....  |
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honda hoe TriniTuner vip
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:24 am Post subject: |
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| Tuner.... wrote: | Hands down B18C Winner.....Would even pick a B16a in front of the F20B once its' to put in civic.....  |
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pycho Riding on 13's
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| Tuner.... wrote: | Hands down B18C Winner.....Would even pick a B16a in front of the F20B once its' to put in civic.....  |
are u comparing bhp... or availability of mods... stock for stock the f20b has more bhp however the gear ratio is a major fundamental factor one should consider when comparing.. the f20b is faster but b18c is more reliable |
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speedemonz Riding on 13's
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:59 am Post subject: |
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On what basis would you judge reliability, i would simply go f20b with an H2B adapter to use a b series lsd gear box for the better ratios but what determines which route to take is determined by the purpose for the build..........  |
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