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shinakuma
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 Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:16 pm
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| Maybe if u put a toyo proxy ra1 tyre on d left wheel it will help. |
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gt4tified
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:24 pm
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| A172 wrote: | nono....for every problem that can be foreseen, someone must have a solution for it or went through it on this forum..
after all, this is the place to come for technical information
so another good point raised by shinakuma there then: what can be done about the traction issues? |
Many options have you Master Obi wan....
1. Broad moffin tyres...as broad as your clearances will allow;
2. Launch/Traction control....2 step bizniz...should be a cinch if you going standalone;
3. Wider gearing ratios.
^^^ y'all can add to this list. |
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xtech
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:12 pm
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simply put it wont be a daily driver anymore.................. 
If boost to the max dat is........on a milder turbo set-up it will be streetable
even then he will need brake upgrades |
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Maserati
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:07 pm
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high hp in a fwd application esp for a street car = fail
how much hp are you shooting for? |
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A172
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:37 pm
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| Maserati wrote: | high hp in a fwd application esp for a street car = fail
how much hp are you shooting for? |
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Maserati
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:09 pm
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| A172 wrote: | | Maserati wrote: | high hp in a fwd application esp for a street car = fail
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it is common knowledge after a certain amount of hp in a fwd car it becomes impractical, you'll suffer from issues such as traction,torque steer.
Now I'm talking about a street application.
RWD accelerates better.The weight of the car transfers to the rear when the car accelerates forward. This is why FWD cars receive poor traction, and RWD cars receive excellent traction. |
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rx80
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:26 pm
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| Maserati wrote: | high hp in a fwd application esp for a street car = fail
how much hp are you shooting for? |
Hmmm so are FWD restricted to a certain HP? I don't think traction is such an issue there will however be a problem with steer at high torque but isn't the car gonna be used for drags?
Then the car can also be tuned differently for high and low boost, tame the beast for street use.
A172 are you gonna use any aftermarket Cams? |
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AllTrac
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:34 pm
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| A172 wrote: | nono....for every problem that can be foreseen, someone must have a solution for it or went through it on this forum..
after all, this is the place to come for technical information
so another good point raised by shinakuma there then: what can be done about the traction issues? |
cut out de back, put ah 720 pik up diff, conneck it with ah royal saloon dryshaff, kerry d box by ah masheen shop and let dem cut ah hole in it to conneck de odder end of de dryshaff, so now yuh powering all 4 weeehl. Tracshun like dat  |
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Maserati
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:40 pm
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^stop speaking Guyanese  |
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gt4tified
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:45 pm
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| Maserati wrote: | | A172 wrote: | | Maserati wrote: | high hp in a fwd application esp for a street car = fail
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it is common knowledge after a certain amount of hp in a fwd car it becomes impractical, you'll suffer from issues such as traction,torque steer.
Now I'm talking about a street application.
RWD accelerates better.The weight of the car transfers to the rear when the car accelerates forward. This is why FWD cars receive poor traction, and RWD cars receive excellent traction. |
So A172, what Maserati saying is build your car to go fast........in reverse! |
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:47 pm
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gt4tified, wtmc
perhaps some of the guys who drag raced with FWD can share of views?
e.g. W2J when he had his lancer? there are a couple honda guys and nissan guys as well. |
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rx80
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:39 am
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| When my cousin did his build in his starlet they got some issues with traction but the lowered the front of the car and put stiffer springs in the back and that helped alot. |
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honda hoe
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:29 am
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surprisingly enuff most times i launch BETTER dan rwd cars wit similar power as my car
my back suspension is set to full stiff tho
i think its cuz the weight of my engine is on the front tyres... not to mention i have lsd and lauch control
rwd cars tend to dance off the line cuz there is no weight on the back tyres
however when they eventually get traction they accelerate well
my personal observation |
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shinakuma
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:53 am
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I hear u an d steele suppose 2 race 4 d title of K20/24 ruler. Wat iz d magic hp dat fwd should stay away from Maserati could u share d info. A GT2860rs could only make 350whp on an SR20det it not goin 2 make dat on a 5efte maybe around 300whp. Wat iz d big issue wit traction i sure A172 go launch on low boost and only hit d 20+psi in 3rd gear lol jus common sense. D man want tech info 4 d build like wat pistons & rods 2 buy etc.
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:02 am
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| Maserati wrote: | | A172 wrote: | | Maserati wrote: | high hp in a fwd application esp for a street car = fail
how much hp are you shooting for? |
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it is common knowledge after a certain amount of hp in a fwd car it becomes impractical, you'll suffer from issues such as traction,torque steer.
Now I'm talking about a street application.
RWD accelerates better.The weight of the car transfers to the rear when the car accelerates forward. This is why FWD cars receive poor traction, and RWD cars receive excellent traction. |
I wonder if he still laughing or will start taking notes when he's in tuner class. |
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honda hoe
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:04 am
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| shinakuma wrote: | | I hear u an d steele suppose 2 race 4 d title of K20/24 ruler |
i don't have a K20/24/6 whatever so he could tek win  |
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shinakuma
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:09 am
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| honda hoe wrote: | | shinakuma wrote: | | I hear u an d steele suppose 2 race 4 d title of K20/24 ruler |
i don't have a K20/24/6 whatever so he could tek win |
Shhhhh u didnt hear dis from me but he car real slow i stretchin him wit 8psi and when i run u i does use 10psi push 4 d run i sure he go back down. |
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A172
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:12 am
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I want a run wid Kezay  |
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honda hoe
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:15 am
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shinakuma,
not interested
he hadda prove himself
not d other way around
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shinakuma
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:18 am
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| How much hp is ur target 4 d 5efte upgrade. U should wait 4 Maserati 2 info u bout wat hp 2 stay away from its REAL important. |
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