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5efte FULLY FORGED build: Coming Soon
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:50 am
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any and all technical help most welcome and appreciated.


couple questions for the more experienced guys here:

seeing that it's gonna be a fully built motor, is it absolutely necessary to change oil/water pump? my current ones seem to be pretty good...

If yes, what's the technical reason for doing so.....instead of 'bai just put new ting an done nahhh' Question

Thx for any and all info, knowledgable ones.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:13 am
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Cause you fully built you feel you can skimp on other components




5e flywheel (200mm)……or redrilled 4efte flywheel (212mm), OR try to get the 5e bolt pattern flywheel that holds the 212mm clutch set up (usually found on some 3E engines)
- 5e clutch and 5e pressure plate OR 4efte clutch and 4efte pressure plate….NOT to be mixed and matched





- what size injectors u plans to be using 330cc,460cc or 550cc???
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:26 am
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Cause you fully built you feel you can skimp on other components


you DO realise you just gave me answers to questions I didn't ask right? Laughing

did you put in a new oil/water pump on your 5e?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:34 am
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:40 am
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no i did not change anything........just the oil pan an oil pick up
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:49 am
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any and all technical help most welcome and appreciated.


couple questions for the more experienced guys here:

seeing that it's gonna be a fully built motor, is it absolutely necessary to change oil/water pump? my current ones seem to be pretty good...

If yes, what's the technical reason for doing so.....instead of 'bai just put new ting an done nahhh' Question

Thx for any and all info, knowledgable ones.


From my experiences, when i put down a used water pump to long, long being a lil over a month, after reinstalling it, it work for a while then pick up a leak, so I does change it to save de headache
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:07 pm
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nice project! Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:21 pm
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Should at least inspect the water pump and have a look at the impellers, as they sometimes corrode when the engine's out.
As for the oil pump definitely something you can't skimp on, lack of oil is a gonna sheit up bearings and rings in no time.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:59 pm
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Recently built 5efte Shocked

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Is that 2 BOV's I'm seeing there?
One on the hot side and one one the cold side?

Any particular reason why?

I know some high boost applications run 2 BOVs often right next to each other and closer to the throttle body.
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Maserati, doh be questionin d mango tree mechanic inc. co. ltd. plc. llb. nah Mad
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Recently built 5efte Shocked

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Is that 2 BOV's I'm seeing there?
One on the hot side and one one the cold side?

Any particular reason why?

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more blow off noise duh.........
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Maserati, doh be questionin d mango tree mechanic inc. co. ltd. plc. llb. nah Mad


Just trying to expand my knowledge!!

If it results in more HP, performance etc then the discovery must be shared with the wider tuner community.
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sharing?

dem go tell u it STOCK

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it stock Neutral
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it stock Neutral


as A172 say...
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anyone on this forum knows the tq specs for ARP bolts for the head and conrods?

tryna source this info....but google givin meh lil trouble

thx in advance.
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what oil should be used in this turbo application as well?
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I tink u should squash dis project traction will b too much of an issue and who goin to build d engine - boy, rat , or dog vomit. STOP d project!!...... dis just in .............d block iz about an inch taller Rolling Eyes

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nono....for every problem that can be foreseen, someone must have a solution for it or went through it on this forum..

after all, this is the place to come for technical information

so another good point raised by shinakuma there then: what can be done about the traction issues?
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Maybe if u put a toyo proxy ra1 tyre on d left wheel it will help.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:24 pm
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nono....for every problem that can be foreseen, someone must have a solution for it or went through it on this forum..

after all, this is the place to come for technical information

so another good point raised by shinakuma there then: what can be done about the traction issues?


Many options have you Master Obi wan....

1. Broad moffin tyres...as broad as your clearances will allow;
2. Launch/Traction control....2 step bizniz...should be a cinch if you going standalone;
3. Wider gearing ratios.

^^^ y'all can add to this list.
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simply put it wont be a daily driver anymore.................. Laughing
If boost to the max dat is........on a milder turbo set-up it will be streetable

even then he will need brake upgrades
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high hp in a fwd application esp for a street car = fail

how much hp are you shooting for?
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high hp in a fwd application esp for a street car = fail

how much hp are you shooting for?


#Rofl
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high hp in a fwd application esp for a street car = fail

how much hp are you shooting for?


#Rofl


it is common knowledge after a certain amount of hp in a fwd car it becomes impractical, you'll suffer from issues such as traction,torque steer.

Now I'm talking about a street application.

RWD accelerates better.The weight of the car transfers to the rear when the car accelerates forward. This is why FWD cars receive poor traction, and RWD cars receive excellent traction.
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high hp in a fwd application esp for a street car = fail

how much hp are you shooting for?

Hmmm so are FWD restricted to a certain HP? I don't think traction is such an issue there will however be a problem with steer at high torque but isn't the car gonna be used for drags?
Then the car can also be tuned differently for high and low boost, tame the beast for street use.

A172 are you gonna use any aftermarket Cams?
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nono....for every problem that can be foreseen, someone must have a solution for it or went through it on this forum..

after all, this is the place to come for technical information

so another good point raised by shinakuma there then: what can be done about the traction issues?


cut out de back, put ah 720 pik up diff, conneck it with ah royal saloon dryshaff, kerry d box by ah masheen shop and let dem cut ah hole in it to conneck de odder end of de dryshaff, so now yuh powering all 4 weeehl. Tracshun like dat Exclamation
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^stop speaking Guyanese Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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high hp in a fwd application esp for a street car = fail

how much hp are you shooting for?


#Rofl


it is common knowledge after a certain amount of hp in a fwd car it becomes impractical, you'll suffer from issues such as traction,torque steer.

Now I'm talking about a street application.

RWD accelerates better.The weight of the car transfers to the rear when the car accelerates forward. This is why FWD cars receive poor traction, and RWD cars receive excellent traction.


So A172, what Maserati saying is build your car to go fast........in reverse! Laughing Laughing
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