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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:32 pm
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Okay guys i think I have the highest km on a swift lol !! 140000 km
well what to start with ,okay what not to do

1) NO i mean NO lighten pulley on the 1.5 will explain
2) NO i mean NO ram air intake on the 1.5 will also explain
3) dont buy any blown bulbs from LM will explain
4) no exhaust will explain

what to do
1) k&n drop in air filter
2) fran or purolate oil filter ( will explain)
3) iridium ngk 6 , ( didn't try 7 want to )
U are good !!

Now to explain
1 + 2 = the world of pinging ( destroyed my engine also blown the head gasket Sad drinking oil and coolant and to rebuild costing 8g's

HG kit $2000
ring $1000
bearing $2000
M bearings $1000
timing assmb. $2000

I thing the ecu mapping isnt adjusting for the addons not to mention the high revs u will encounter will totally destroy your compression mine is 118 psi on all 4 cyl it should be 140 -160
waiting on his replacement from JP finger cross lol

whats gone again 2 back bearings cost by LM $1g $500 a side
AC give up the other day -- it could be link to the compressor bearing humming ( flood waters )
The deck CD part gave out by 120000 km cost to replace $5000 LOL LM MAD will get that from UK hoping
Headlights went I thing they want $300 for the bulb got it for $75 .. the fogs went they wanted $200 got it for $25 h11 lol LM MAD
clutch slave cyl push rod broke had to replace the whole component $350 the whole thing is plastic no kidding the cyl and ram and hose all plastic , clutch finally slipping at 130000 sound like a CVT under hard accel LOL !!! cost to replace $2500

And after all this u will think that i will be walking HA the lil bug still going lol I love this car lol !!!!! other than topping up the coolant every morning and a slipping clutch hit will put a cut ass on you lol !! .. its a ritual now for the overheating knock on wood the radiator holding out .. trying to keep her out of the red and doing it .. no more hard driving only econ o driving a 120 km for the most after that its the temp going up lol!!! .. the nice thing is that my average mpg is 33.7 ha im getting 400 - 420 km per tank 33ltr or about 90 bucks super lol ..
the exhaust .. removing the last oem barrel for a straight through is causing to much of a free flow IN MY OPINION so u burn more gas more carbon build up , u wil have to constantly be cleaning it out . its worst know with the super gas .. I checked some other 1.5 its better to just slice of the chrome fitting and use a weld on a tip .... my opinion

Other than that she still going ...trying to get TBC trinidad brakes and clutch to bring in our brakes .. So i wouldn't have to pay LM $600 for a set lol .. I still say she is a good car if you like to drive get the sport if u just need a car the 1.5 will do .. If you are like me and at the time LM wasn't selling the sport and you bought one invest in those greddy pressure release canisters that connect up to the overflow bottle if you have a manual will help save the HG ( read that in an article)

my 2 cents oh and i change oil using 20 - 50 to keep it in the engine i read it in the work shop manual if u are running your swift in extreme use , Am I LOL!!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:28 pm
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how do u know the engine was pinging?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:56 pm
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:15 pm
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Mitsu power wrote:
Okay guys i think I have the highest km on a swift lol !! 140000 km
well what to start with ,okay what not to do

1) NO i mean NO lighten pulley on the 1.5 will explain
2) NO i mean NO ram air intake on the 1.5 will also explain
3) dont buy any blown bulbs from LM will explain
4) no exhaust will explain


what to do
1) k&n drop in air filter
2) fran or purolate oil filter ( will explain)
3) iridium ngk 6 , ( didn't try 7 want to )
U are good !!




Now to explain
1 + 2 = the world of pinging ( destroyed my engine also blown the head gasket Sad drinking oil and coolant and to rebuild costing 8g's
running your swift in extreme use , Am I LOL!!



i think you are very wrong with many things you said ... but please remember this is just my opinion.

K&N ram air intake produced 5 more whp than drop in K&N
pulley produced 6whp on dyno
all on audi dyno on swift 1.5

never use a purealtor oil filter on your swift.... frame or OEM.
the OEM filter is available at most parts places but cost more. $80.00

a ram air intake and a light weight pulley will never make your car ping.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:22 pm
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by a stretch of the imagination teh extra air can lead to lean conditions, which can cause some level of ping. not nearly enough to blow a hg, especially since u seeing black soot in ure exhaust, which tells u ure running rich.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:11 am
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my word, and i thought amir gave his car pressure Laughing. I just have one question, WHY did you do that to the car? Those things you described aren't normal things that would happen on a swift under "normal" to "spirited" driving.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:50 pm
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Mitsu power wrote:
Okay guys i think I have the highest km on a swift lol !! 140000 km
well what to start with ,okay what not to do

1) NO i mean NO lighten pulley on the 1.5 will explain
2) NO i mean NO ram air intake on the 1.5 will also explain
3) dont buy any blown bulbs from LM will explain
4) no exhaust will explain


what to do
1) k&n drop in air filter
2) fran or purolate oil filter ( will explain)
3) iridium ngk 6 , ( didn't try 7 want to )
U are good !!




Now to explain
1 + 2 = the world of pinging ( destroyed my engine also blown the head gasket Sad drinking oil and coolant and to rebuild costing 8g's
running your swift in extreme use , Am I LOL!!



i think you are very wrong with many things you said ... but please remember this is just my opinion.

K&N ram air intake produced 5 more whp than drop in K&N
pulley produced 6whp on dyno
all on audi dyno on swift 1.5

never use a purealtor oil filter on your swift.... frame or OEM.
the OEM filter is available at most parts places but cost more. $80.00

a ram air intake and a light weight pulley will never make your car ping.


Boss Im serious the girl was pinging I put back the oem stuff and boom the rattle was gone .. I just didnt have the ears for it until a friend sat in the car and said whats that tap tap tap sound it was loud for a second or 2 , every time i pull off i heard the tap. I even took out the ram air and put back the oem air box it was still there but it reduced only until the oem pully was replaced then boom no noise .. and it does destroy the compress in the 1.5 .. imagine my surprise when im in tobago going down hill and a big cloud of blue smoke in the rear view mirror Shocked Oh and the pcv valve was good .. I blame it on the quick revs .. but she was a beyotch with those mods installed lol ... if your wondering yes I drive my baby spirited and normal ... bets me the same thing I said to the LM mech I even told them that I Ignis uses his car for rally and soldex and i dought he had anything close to what im having they say he has a sport ignis LOL so the SS SI are built better that the normal cars lol thats why I said if u got a lead foot use the sport if not the swift simple as that
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:03 pm
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i think u messed with the engine timing when u put in the pulley.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:08 pm
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nope didnt the timing chain is sealed inside the engine and the pully is sloted its only one way to put it on
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:57 pm
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was your car remapped by any chance?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:07 pm
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out of curiosity....how do you manage to put 140,000kms on a car as new as the swift??
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:38 pm
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I Ignis Nope but I had a feelin i needed to do that . Did I ? AND IF I DID YOU DIDNT TELL ME TO WHEN I ASKED YOU
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:15 pm
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Sounds like your car went through alot of abuse....part due to whomever you service your car by (LM???), and part due to the owner?????

ALOT of these things could have been avoided, and simply cannot be the fault of the "said mods".

Unless of course, you believe what LM is telling you (which sounds like the case).

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frame or OEM


Depends on which fram. Most times....fram = fail as they have no bypass valve. The backing plates are also utter crap (cut open one and see).

The new "extra guard" ones (or whatever name they use) have the bypass valve, but I can't say if there's an app for the swift. Is that what you use? If so...those are pretty good.


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Boss Im serious the girl was pinging I put back the oem stuff and boom the rattle was gone .. I just didnt have the ears for it until a friend sat in the car and said whats that tap tap tap sound it was loud for a second or 2 , every time i pull off i heard the tap. I even took out the ram air and put back the oem air box it was still there but it reduced only until the oem pully was replaced then boom no noise .. and it does destroy the compress in the 1.5


For you to have lost compression, you must have had significant damage to the internals. Did you ever think to check the spark plugs for evidence of detonation, pre ignition, or use premium even, when all of this was happening?

Could it be that maybe that knocking sound was a spun bearing from using too low a viscosity of oil? That could have damage could have led to the rest as a chain reaction.......(I know LM uses a 5W30 or 10W30....which isn't the best if you're rev happy...for the long term).


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i think u messed with the engine timing when u put in the pulley


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but it reduced only until the oem pully was replaced then boom no noise


Could have damaged the bearings due to an improperly balanced pulley? That could have led to some "knocking" sounds on acceleration, possible crank walk,....and the list goes on.

Also remember that the OE crank pulley as a "rubber insert", which acts as a harmonic dampener....good for smoothing out vibes and protecting the rotating assembly. Many lightened pulleys don't carry a harmonic dampener as part of their design.....and this can lead to bottom end degradation....theoretically......over time.


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removing the last oem barrel for a straight through is causing to much of a free flow IN MY OPINION so u burn more gas more carbon build up , u wil have to constantly be cleaning it out . its worst know with the super gas


Maybe your exhaust was a little too free flow. What diameter was it? So far, my Sunline exhaust has been pretty clean....no complaints on that. Put at least 6Kmileage on it since install. Laughing


Could it be because the car was in bad working condition to start with, that you started getting blow through/bypass through the exhaust, which was causing the carbon buildup?


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clutch slave cyl push rod broke had to replace the whole component $350 the whole thing is plastic no kidding


Now I agree with you here. The pushrod = mess in the stock swift/swift sport setup. I'll be changing mine to an R's racing solid pushrod when the time is right.


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by a stretch of the imagination teh extra air can lead to lean conditions, which can cause some level of ping. not nearly enough to blow a hg, especially since u seeing black soot in ure exhaust, which tells u ure running rich.


Agreed. At most I can say is that maybe the SRI was pulling in hotter air thann the stock intake (which can happen...it is more prone to heat soak in traffic driving), making the car more prone to knock. But I can't see it creating such immense knock to blow up the engine. The 1.5's compression isn't even all that high Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:26 pm
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^^^ just to answer some of yur question
1)I change the oil like clock work every 7000 km
2) I originally used LM 15 -50 Sy B then but i didnt like the varing amounts of oil in each quart so I went to kendal 5w - 40 F Sy worked great .. i changed frm the oem to the fram extra guard which u get cheaper out side number ph2951
3) I knew about the harmonic damper so thats why i checked my oem pully for such items and there were none and the pully i bought is the Suzuki sport 1.5 replacement pully (which can work on the 1.6 )
4) at the time i was pinging i whent buy 3 mech and they all said it was nothing but the engine speed trying to keep up with the ignition speed or vice versa (still had a feelin somthing wrong )
5)the plug had a dark gold tan on it all good now its darker
6) the oem exhaust i just replace the back barrel
7)the funnel thing was i was using premium at the time
Cool I know the sounds of spun bearing and it wast a spun bearing spun bearings will continues through out the rpm range and get louder . this didnt .. sound like a couple of marbles in a smaill tin
9) the lost compressions got to be the quicker and higher rev that the lighten pully produces .. I have the swift work shop manual and it says that the swift produces I will confrim ( its not in front of me now ) 180 psi new 160 to 140 engine broke in and below 140 too be replace ... I feel the I ignis and SS uses a thicker compression ring as the different ma engines use diffrent size main bearings ( there colour coded )
10) the only thing is that the crank walked or the chain slipped a tooth or 2 . I remeber i shift it in a worng gear under hard accel a couple times and the engine sound like it skipped a beat .. thats like the only thing I can think of ... if i gave it a hard run it got a 5 min kol down period, warm up on mornig or a cold start was the norms for me ..
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[quote}Suzuki sport 1.5 replacement pully (which can work on the 1.6 )[/quote]

SuzukiSport pulley???? Not the stock one right? If it's the same thing I'm thinking about, this doesn't have a harmonic damper either (it's a competition pulley....so they don't use the inserts afaik).

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4) at the time i was pinging i whent buy 3 mech and they all said it was nothing but the engine speed trying to keep up with the ignition speed or vice versa (still had a feelin somthing wrong )


Sounds like your timing was off.....makes sense when compared to your #10 answer - you may have issues with your tensioner, which could cause the off timing etc etc.

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I remeber i shift it in a worng gear under hard accel a couple times and the engine sound like it skipped a beat


Could be a high rpm misfire too....see comments about timing.
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^^^ yup thats the one .. well I think we sorted out the problem but I will dig up in the engine when i get the other one thanks guys will have pic on the swap and the engine disassemble johnny 5 disassemble Laughing
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what engine u going with ?
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tbh it doesnt sound like youve maintained the car very well 140000km isnt that much mileage that is a new car still in the uk ive had cars running like new with 200k+ miles on them.
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